Look at the auction Injector ?'s

[azichek]

Is it true that ZE injectors are 220cc and that stock ones are 180cc?? thanks alot

Andrew

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33553&item=2454869026

[Rick_96PGT]

This person has no clue what he/she is talking about.

There is no such item as "JDM KLZE Hi-Flo Fuel Injectors". :no:

[BLACKFXGT]

Those are 180cc Mx3 injectors. How can I twll you ask? They are red tops you can see that little red thing sticking out.

Red top = Mx3 180cc
Blue top = Probe 220cc
Burgundy = Millenia S 260cc - 280cc

[azichek]

thanks for the info black, so our inj. for probes are allready 220cc. i didnt know. thanks alot mods can close the thread if you want.

[TRiCKieRaVeR]

Rick, this is the same reason why I asked you this same question yesterday.:D

[Omaha95PGT]

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[Gro Harlem]

whats funny is you guys are claiming I"m a retarded idiot when all the info you posted thus far is inaccurate.

True, I was completely unaware (and ignorant) of the color differences in the fuel injectors at the time I took some pics of what I thought were my KLZE injectors, but after looking up some stuff here on PT, I found that my red-tops in that picture MIGHT be Millenia S injectors. I have 5 sets of injectors sitting around so it wasn't hard for me to confuse this when I snapped the pics. I labelled 3 of the 5 sets of injectors with some masking tape (stating what they were off of). I most likely picked up these red tops because of the stranger looking banjo bolt / fuel line fitting bends on the side of them.

But after going out to my car and checking my KLZE, my current KLZE injectors are blue tops. These came with my straight-neck engine when I bought it from the engine importer (noyan USA). I was expecting them to be red also. My stock K8 injectors are NOT RED, and I have no clue where the hell you would get that idea from. They are black in color.

These red tops DID come from a KLZE curved neck intake manifold that I recently bought, and for all I know they might not be millenia S injectors, but some other one that no one has talked about in the past.

The statement "jdm KLZE hi-flo fuel injectors" Isn't false, as they were from a KLZE and are higher flowing than MY stock 180cc injectors. I didn't say anywhere in the description that these were higher flowing probe injectors, only that they'd fit the probe/mx6/626's and would be an upgrade for the mx3's. Read the description of the auction before trying to demean me behind my back!! It isn't my fault that half the people here can read!

Also, get your damn facts straight...misinformation is one of the worst problems with car communities, and having been on here for about 2 years I must say that this site is one of the best to find information, but posting BULLSHIT like that stated above about red tops being K8 is doing nothing to help anyone on here. I can snap a pic of my K8's if you want to see the color, hell I'll even take apart them from the fuel rail to get the true color as they are not red (maybe a dark purple or green or blue, but look black to me).

[PUREplay3r22586]

anger management:D

[Omaha95PGT]

Actually, in the auction you don't specify what car "my stock injectors" came from. You just said that they flow more than stock. A Probe GT or MX6 guy might come along who is clueless about how much a PGT or MX6 LS injector flows and buy it thinking he's getting a higher flowing rail when indeed he's just getting a set of stock injectors.

The price they sold for is ok for a set of stock rails anyway.

I'll go check my rails and see what color the injector tops are. I also have a picture of my old Millenia S injectors laying around, but I'll have to search for it.

[Gro Harlem]

true, I guess I should've mentioned my stockers were MX3 units, but here is the quote from the auction:

"These are higher flowing than my stock injectors. I believe they are 220cc, over my stock 180cc injectors."

This statement is factual and not stretching the truth. IF probe owners want to believe that i'm talking about THEIR car, then that their mistake. I said "these flow higher than MY stock fuel injectors" which is true. "these flow 220cc over my stock 180cc injectors" is also true (unless mx3's are 190...i'm not too sure).

the picture I took was not of some 180 or 220cc units which was my mistake for posting it though.... I guess I confused the hell out of some people and I apologize.

I hope we can clear up what exactly the flow characteristics are on all these differnet colored injectors....as it is obvious people here are confused about it. (including myself)

[babyblueMX3]

hey gro i jsut checked my old 1.8L injectoes ad they are indeed red top

[BLACKFXGT]

What I posted are the correct flow ratings for those injectors. Give or take a little depending on injectors as no two are the same. Also do some research before you call my post BULLSHIT.

[Gro Harlem]

I don't think anyone thinks your flow characteristics were bullshit, only the color's assosiated with them. I have already IMed 3 other MX3'ers and they all say that their injectors are blackish in color, one saying a dark blue.

Saying that red-tops are MX3's and "burgundy" are millenia isn't very convincing. Burgundy is just another shade of red, and can create the illusion if the injector rail is dirty with grease and dirt.

Here is the thread I read:

http://www.probetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1701071300&highlight=millenia+injectors+red

And here is the pic (probe vs millenia S):

http://images.liquiddew.com/albums/Memphis%20POC/FuLcRuM/Turbo%20Install/Fuel%20Stuff/DSC00672.JPG

That looks more red than burgundy to me. (once the rail is apart)

I would like to find out for myself the differences in these injectors. Aren't you at least willing to be open-minded, and accept that maybe the red tops are something else? I honestly could care less if you end up being completley right about this issue. But after reading NUMEROUS threads with conflicting information it is obvious that no one here actually knows the differneces. I think we can at least agree that blue is definitely Probe/KLZE/MX6 and flows 220cc...but thats about all we can say for certain at this point.

[azichek]

yeah but they aren't high flow. and dont try to cover it up by saying "Actually i was technicaly correct i was just streching the truth" i'm not mad but just admit that you marketed those injectors to be higer flowing then the stock PGT ones. Just admit it. Anyway im done with this thread I got my ? answered in the second thread. Thanks guys, mods feel free to close the thread.