Looking for PG heavy duty pins

[attack_mx6]

i am looking for a heavy duty diff pin to use with the phantom grip.

[cyborgzero]

Buy the one from PG themselves OR have yours welded in..

[attack_mx6]

Buy the one from PG themselves OR have yours welded in..

i emailed them.. do they list it in a product section... they havent' responded to my emaiml.

[Jeff_Jeske]

Its the one for the CRX.

www.jeffjeske.com/grip1.html

[attack_mx6]

Its the one for the CRX.

www.jeffjeske.com/grip1.html

how much abuse did you put it though ?

[Jeff_Jeske]

I beat the crap out of it non stop. The newer designs are supposed to not be as bad. They also offer a new bullet proof final drive pin called the diff saver. Not sure if they offer it for the PGT or not.

http://www.modernperformance.com/dcx/pic-dsaver.gif

[JBean8510]

hey jeff would u recommend this for a daily???ive been thinking over this for awhile....

and dont weld the diff pin...thas not smart

[Jeff_Jeske]

I loved my phantom grip.....right up to the point where it killed my tranny and clutch.

It was great for a daily driver or a race car. If they fixed the final drive pin issue it would be a great value. If not its almost as expensive as a quaife.

[JBean8510]

hmm ill have to see if they fixed the problem yet....

[mx6gt04]

hey jeff would u recommend this for a daily???ive been thinking over this for awhile....

and dont weld the diff pin...thas not smart

Why is it "not smart?"

I have welded the pin in every tranny Ive had for the past 15k miles. It is a cheap an effective solution to having your diff grenade. the ONLY con is that you cant pull the spider gears. The only reason youd want to pull them is if you stripped or broke them, and by then the tranny is already out so who cares?

There is a fix for the "final drive pin issue" and that is welding the diff pin. Plain and simple. I did it to mine.

[cyborgzero]

Yep, I have to say, welding the diff pin works..

But, lets get at WHY it works:

IT works because what happens with the PG is that it clutches and it grabs and binds on the pin and rotates it: that shears the rollpin after a few hundred cycles.

IF the pin cannot rotate, you won't grenade the diff, simple as that.

And, you CAN remove it, if you do it right you can just take a grinder, grind away the bead you put on it on each side of the diff case (it doesn't take much btw) and whack the pin with a hammer and it will come right out. Then just reweld it. No big frikken deal ppl have been welding in diff pins for 40 years lol.. Its nothing new other than usually we don't have a problem until you put that clutchpack in there. That crappy little rollpin can prlly barely hold the stock forces.

[Jeff_Jeske]

Well welding the pin would have saved my tranny case and clutch but I think the diff still would have self destruct. My pin actually had at least 1/8" wear marks on it and it snapped where the wear marks where.

A stronger pin would be the real solution. There is obviously an existing problem or Phantom Grip wouldn't go through all the trouble of marketing the "diff saver".

[cyborgzero]

OH, hell ya it will wear a nasty groove in the stock pin that is for sure. ;)

But, you throw your diff eventually OR shred your diff gears when the gears move enough that they only partially engage. ;)

One idea I have heard was grinding small grooves in the pin, similiar to what they have on the diffsaver pin so that oil can sit in there.

[aholic]

I have mailed phantom grip regarding the diff saver and they do not offer one for the probe...

[cyborgzero]

Uh, ask for the pin for the Mazda protege and try that.

They are too goofy to know what fits what.

And, lo and behold it will prlly be the same part number for the CRX. ;)

[aholic]

It looks like they are not selling those anymore as they are not on the product page... sad..

[cyborgzero]

Well, a piece of titanium the size you need (about 5/8 iirc) will only cost you about maybe 100 bux to have one made at a machine shop..

Not much too it really.