Throttle body plate?

[benfica88]

About this throttle body plate...I heard it can be removed and that will increase hp...but won't that mess up the timing or the airflow??please help...

[MN Probe GT]

ummmm....NO
That would be, "NO" as in....don't even think about it.
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[BLUMX6]

wait, do you maybe mean the VRIS plate BEHIND the T/B plate? looks like 2 smaller t/b plates. that you could just tie open. but as far as the t/b plate itself...yeah, thats a definite NO.

[poirier]

:razz:

[ASword]

Yeah, I've got mine out. It gave me a few horsepower, but it idles a little high.

[GT~ZE]

On 2001-03-30 15:50, ASword wrote:
Yeah, I've got mine out. It gave me a few horsepower, but it idles a little high.



Aren't you turbo'd? Or did you do it before the boost?

[HowLeTT]

he was kidding :smile:

The throttle plate is what controls the air being let into the manifold, taking that out would be ridiculous, that's like.. being at WOT, with the TPS expecting idle :grin: Its safe to assume the meant the VRIS plates, whether he knew it or not.

[David Coleman]

I removed my pistons to reduce reciprocating mass.

[GT~ZE]

On 2001-03-30 16:31, HowLeTT wrote:
he was kidding :smile:


Yeah I was assuming again... Making an Azz out of U & me...

I thought he was talking about the vris.

[ASword]

Hehehe, well this thread certainly gave me my giggle of the day. Heh.

Dave: if you took the pistons out, did you remove the rods as well? Not only will you get a lower reciprocating mass, but it will get rid of that awful clattering sound. While you're at it, I heard that the crank is pretty heavy.

[benfica88]

acutally im not talking about the vris...I've heard about this being done on volkswagons,and this rumor was also posted on the nepo probes website....still don't know if it is,ill have to check.....thanx

[ASword]

:lol:

Ah, the extreme mirth of it all.

You heard wrong I'm afraid my dear sir. Removing the throttle plate is only useful if you want to run the engine at wide-open throttle at all times. There might be some uses for such an engine, but a car is not one of them.

:roll:

[benfica88]

actually after reviewing aswords comment i feel i did not explain myself well...sorry but i thought everyone would know what i meant...it's not the actual plate...suposedly theres a sort of restricitve net(when i here people talk they use the word plate) in the throttle body...i dont not know because ive never actually taken it apart yet...
sorry for the confusion.thanx

[clavier]

Well, I don't know about the stock KL TB, but the TB on my K8 manifold has a "spacer" plate between the TB and the manifold proper.
I left it in because I don't see it having any negative effect on flow.

[David Coleman]

On 2001-03-31 01:56, ASword wrote:

Dave: if you took the pistons out, did you remove the rods as well? Not only will you get a lower reciprocating mass, but it will get rid of that awful clattering sound. While you're at it, I heard that the crank is pretty heavy.




No, I had my rods knife edged and my crank shotpeened. I considered removing the oil pan but then I would lose all the protection it provides to the crank. And the radiator was blocking flow of fresh air into the engine compartment, as well as weighing a considerable amount, so I removed that as well. I would remove the a/c, but its hot in Florida; can't live without it.

I think I might try removing the rods and crank this weekend. Any other suggestions about stuff to remove?

[benfica88]

hehe,smart guy

[Rick_96PGT]

On 2001-03-31 17:32, David Coleman wrote:

On 2001-03-31 01:56, ASword wrote:

Dave: if you took the pistons out, did you remove the rods as well? Not only will you get a lower reciprocating mass, but it will get rid of that awful clattering sound. While you're at it, I heard that the crank is pretty heavy.




No, I had my rods knife edged and my crank shotpeened. I considered removing the oil pan but then I would lose all the protection it provides to the crank. And the radiator was blocking flow of fresh air into the engine compartment, as well as weighing a considerable amount, so I removed that as well. I would remove the a/c, but its hot in Florida; can't live without it.

I think I might try removing the rods and crank this weekend. Any other suggestions about stuff to remove?



Yea!...Theres obviously about 4.3lbs above your eybrows thats wasting space....:razz:

[ASword]

Okay, I suppose benfica88 deserves a straight answer since he posted a clarification on his question...

I believe some vehicles put a debris screen before or after the mass airflow sensor. I've heard that removing this tends to improve airflow. The KL03 does not have such a thing so the mod isn't applicable to us.

Well, this topic was fun while it lasted. :smile:

Cheers,
Andrew

[David Coleman]

So, what Andrew is saying is that knife edging my cams would be a good thing? Or my new cross drilled rods?

[RITWalter]

:darin:

I got rid of the whole car to save on unsprung weight and walk everywhere now. My gas mileage is incredible. A shot in the morning and Im good all day.