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1st Gen (89-92) Archive THE place to find your basic maintenance questions asked about the 1G probe/mx-6.

 
 
July 1st, 2004, 08:35 PM   #26
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Great, Welcome
 
July 10th, 2004, 01:57 PM   #27
Harbinger
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I have a 90 PGL automatic and I got codes 08 and 10, now how do I fix it?
 
July 10th, 2004, 07:48 PM   #28
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Make sure the metal deal attached to the air filter box is plugged in.
Its called a VAF, and both of those devices are built into it.
 
July 10th, 2004, 09:45 PM   #29
wizlinks
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what if I you cant pull codes from the ECU. The check engine lamp goes off completely when you ground the STI connnector but comes back on when you are not grounding it.

Does it mean the ECU's dead?
 
July 10th, 2004, 10:53 PM   #30
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Sure you have the right wire?
 
July 10th, 2004, 11:16 PM   #31
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Sure you have the right wire?

Yes the single RED one with the white stripe. Have done it before & got a 15. but couldn't replace O2 yet.
 
July 11th, 2004, 10:36 AM   #32
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Ok just making sure, At least you have it running now.
 
July 11th, 2004, 11:36 AM   #33
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Ok just making sure, At least you have it running now.
Yes, thanx to you guys. the wiring diagrams helped and some older threads too.
 
July 31st, 2004, 09:01 AM   #34
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Since they limit here to only 5,000 characters per post, I can't edit my post above, how I want.

So here are the Error Codes for;
90' Lx 3.0L V6
11 O,R,C System Pass
12 R Cannot control rpm during Self-Test high rpm check
13 R Cannot control rpm during Self-Test low rpm check
14 C PIP circuit failure
15 O ROM test failure
15 C Keep Alive Memory (KAM) test failure
18 R SPOUT circuit open
18 C IDM circuit failure19 O Failure in ECA internal voltage
21 O,R ECT sensor input is out of Self-Test range
22 O,R,C MAP sensor input is out of Self-Test range
23 O,R TP sensor input is out of Self-Test range
24 O,R ACT sensor input is out of Self-Test range
25 R KS sensor signal is not sensed during Dynamic Response Test

 
July 31st, 2004, 09:02 AM   #35
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29 C Insufficient input from the Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS)
31 O,R,C PFE circuit is below minimum voltage
32 R,C PFE circuit voltage low
33 R,C EGR valve opening (PFE) not detected
34 O PFE sensor voltage out of range
34 R,C Excessive exhaust back pressure/PFE circuit voltage high
35 O,R,C PFE circuit is above maximum voltage
39 C AXOD lock-up failed
41 R HEGO sensor circuit indicates system lean
41 C No HEGO switching detected
42 R HEGO sensor circuit indicates system rich
51 O,C ECT sensor circuit open
52 O PSPS circuit is open
52 R PSPS always staying open or closed
53 O,C TP sensor input is greater than Self-Test maximum voltage
54 O,C ACT sensor circuit open
57 C AXOD Neutral Pressure Switch (NPS) circuit failed open
59 C AXOD 4/3 pressure switch circuit failed open
 
July 31st, 2004, 09:03 AM   #36
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61 O,C ECT sensor circuit grounded
62 O AXOD 4/3 or 3/2 pressure switch circuit grounded
63 O,C TP sensor input is less than Self-Test minimum voltage
64 O,C ACT sensor circuit grounded
67 O Neutral Pressure Switch (NPS) circuit closed; A/C ON
69 C AXOD 3/4 pressure switch circuit failed open
72 R Insufficient MAP output change during Dynamic Response Test73 R Insufficient TP output change during Dynamic Response Test
74 R Brake On/Off (BOO) circuit failure - not actuated during Self-Test
77 R Brief WOT not sensed during Self-Test/Operator error
83 O High Speed Electro-Drive Fan (HEDF) circuit failure
84 O EGR Vacuum Regulator (EVR) circuit failure
85 O Canister Purge (CANP) circuit failure
87 O,C Fuel pump primary circuit failure
 
July 31st, 2004, 09:04 AM   #37
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88 O Electro-drive fan (EDF) circuit failure
89 O Lock-Up Solenoid (LUS) circuit failure
95 O,C Fuel pump circuit open/ECA to motor ground
96 O,C Fuel pump circuit open/Battery to ECA98 R Hard fault is present
 
August 10th, 2004, 05:46 PM   #38
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Tried gettin codes but all my check engine light does is stay on the whole time, but as soon as i turn on my car it turns off. I grounded the wire to the single red wire w/ white stripe. im lost and my car only starts once in awhile. is my comp fried?
 
August 10th, 2004, 06:04 PM   #39
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Tried gettin codes but all my check engine light does is stay on the whole time, but as soon as i turn on my car it turns off. I grounded the wire to the single red wire w/ white stripe. im lost and my car only starts once in awhile. is my comp fried?
Thats normal procedure. In the ON position, the cars check engine light will stay on. Make sure u are grounding the correct wire. Small little spade female connector with white and red stripe. If you have no codes, then your good!
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September 6th, 2004, 07:14 PM   #40
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I tryed the test and when I ground the red/white wire. The light just stays on but my check engine light stays on while I am driving so I know there has to be codes. What do I do I have a 89 gt.
 
September 6th, 2004, 11:57 PM   #41
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I tryed the test and when I ground the red/white wire. The light just stays on but my check engine light stays on while I am driving so I know there has to be codes. What do I do I have a 89 gt.

Where are u trying to ground the wire to? Make sure u have it grounded to a good spot, say like a bolt on the driver side strut tower or even a wire long enough to put on the negative portion of the battery. If that dont work, replace the wire u are using, if that dont work, something is up with the wiring..
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September 7th, 2004, 04:11 AM   #42
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I grounded it to the valve cover.
 
September 7th, 2004, 04:55 AM   #43
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Bad choice. Strut tower bolt like evhgame says--Good Choice.

The STI connector is actually next to the LEFT side strut tower (driver's side).

Directional guidance on a vehicle should always be given from a driver's seat perspective.
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September 11th, 2004, 02:54 PM   #44
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Ok guys, my friends 1989 Probe is running like ****. It takes forever to start and when it is running, you have to open the throttle slowly. If you open it fast it bogs and dies. You have to open the throttle VERY slowly to rev it up, any faster and she bogs clear down and dies. So we ran the code tests and here is what we got.

Turned the key on.
Check engine light came on for about a second then shut off.
Blinked 8 times, paused, blinked 1 time, paused, blinked 1 time, paused, blinked 2 times, paused, blinked 1 time paused, blinked 4 times and paused.

We checked it over and over and got the same thing.

8 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 4

This appears to be code 81, code 12, and code 14.
Now, something has to be wrong as there is no Code 81. But the other two codes sound legit. I am pretty confident that since we got a code 12, the TPS is probably faulty. When we unhooked the TPS, the car acted the exact same way as it did with it hooked up, also leading me to believe the TPS is bad. Any ideas?
 
September 12th, 2004, 04:07 AM   #45
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Ok guys, my friends 1989 Probe is running like ****. It takes forever to start and when it is running, you have to open the throttle slowly. If you open it fast it bogs and dies. You have to open the throttle VERY slowly to rev it up, any faster and she bogs clear down and dies. So we ran the code tests and here is what we got.

Turned the key on.
Check engine light came on for about a second then shut off.
Blinked 8 times, paused, blinked 1 time, paused, blinked 1 time, paused, blinked 2 times, paused, blinked 1 time paused, blinked 4 times and paused.

We checked it over and over and got the same thing.

8 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 4

This appears to be code 81, code 12, and code 14.
Now, something has to be wrong as there is no Code 81. But the other two codes sound legit. I am pretty confident that since we got a code 12, the TPS is probably faulty. When we unhooked the TPS, the car acted the exact same way as it did with it hooked up, also leading me to believe the TPS is bad. Any ideas?
Try this for size...this is my interpretation...

Code 8, 1, 12, 14. These are definately your codes. I have the pauses and stuff beaten into my head since I check on my Probe all the time..Heres what they are telling you...

01 - Profile pickup - If I remember right this code has something to do with ignition diagnostics, check to make sure u are getting good spark.

08 Vane Airflow Signal - Check to make sure the plug on the metal thing right by the intake tube (black tubing) is plugged in tight, these plugs seem to wear over time and tend to get lose. Also your VAF may be bad, If so hit the boneyard and get one. I got mine for 10 bucks (about 150 new in store)

12 Throttle Position Sensor - This could be bad or out of adjustment. If its never been messed with, probably bad. If still good, to a search on how to adjust this. Its the little black round thing with 2 circular screws on the back of the throttle body, cant miss.

14 Barometric Pressure Sensor - Ive never messed with this thing, do a search, see what you get.

Any other questions, Haynes manual, at your nearest Autozone, Chucks, Napa, Checker, Pep Boys, 15 bucks, Best 15 bucks you will ever spend.
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December 16th, 2004, 12:46 AM   #46
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Where's it located? Crankshaft Position Sensor #2 - error code 04

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December 16th, 2004, 03:58 PM   #47
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Howdie

Does anyone know where this sensor is located? The crankshaft position sensor #2. I did the car's self-diagnostic and I get error code 04.

Thanks!

There is a search button in the top right hand area of the forum page. However if I remember right, isnt the cranshaft sensors in relation to the disty? I think the disty must be changed.
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January 7th, 2005, 06:45 AM   #48
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I have a 91 LX 3.0 and there is a red w/ white stripe wire by the disty but i read my book further and found out that to check codes for it is on the fire wall. It is the EEC-IV plug. The plug is set up with 2 at the top and four on the bottom row. It said to run the sti that i need to run a jumper from the sti to pin #2( top right of the plug). Then connect the voltmeter negative probe to pin four(second from left on bottom row), then connect the positive probe to the positve post on the battery. Thats when you do the O,R,C. Of course as it was already said in here to set the scale to 15 - 20 volts.




I did this and i got no code errors. Accept for 11, which is system ok.
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February 5th, 2005, 07:32 PM   #49
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what if you can get no codes at all? (89 gt won't start, so only can do koeo test)
all i get continuous short flashes about 3 seconds apart, this will go on forever if i let it.
 
February 27th, 2005, 04:10 PM   #50
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hey mine is reading 06 which is vss signal, my car *seems* to run fine, what do I need to do to correct this? thanks
 
 

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