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February 1st, 2006, 01:26 PM   #1
SB Clutch
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Feramic is the best clutch material ever made

Feramic is a cinderd iron clutch facing that has graphite impregnated into it. It has more holding power than ceramic, it engages way smoother than ceramic and won't eat up the flywheel like ceramic.

The best part is that it can be used on a puck style clutch disc or a full face clutch disc. And it can be coupled up with other friction products to fit different torque levels.

These are available for all Probes. Here is a link. Check it out...

Andy

http://www.dxdracingclutches.com/images/100_0976.gif
 
February 9th, 2006, 07:48 PM   #2
mx6gt04
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Yes, for an all around clutch that is much less likely to break our transmissions from shock loading due to harsh engagement, feramic seems to be the hot ticket.

I've yet to see a disc that can compete with the OFE in streetability, reliability, and holding power. Nice job
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February 9th, 2006, 08:25 PM   #3
veltpak6
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is that disc hardcore enough?
 
February 9th, 2006, 09:06 PM   #4
mx6gt04
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I ran a kevlar before, and with a 1700 lb pressure plate, it held 397 tq for a good while before i got occasional slipping. This disc has a higher coefficient of friction, so it should hold the 450-500 hp/tq I'm shooting for.
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98 Ford Ranger 2wd: 5.0L twin turbo. 10 psi 408 rwhp 491 ft lbs 14 psi 478 rwhp 632 ft lbs
04 Volvo S60R 6 spd
 
March 11th, 2006, 12:47 PM   #5
raf2379
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Im actualy in the marker for a new clutch, next week I'll be Ordering one, but my question is, if i buy the dxd-F kit with the regular pressure plate, will the clutch hold up to 350hp + and torque?? or should I go with the DXD-F kit SS Stage 5, its a bit more expensive, but i have the money and if it holds 98% more then It probably would be a good choice, any sugestions please.

Thank you
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March 11th, 2006, 03:37 PM   #6
jmmdm2
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I'm in the markeR for a new clutch as well.

I'm sick of the damn chatter off my spec stage 3, been looking for a full face with decent holding power. The spec engaged quite harsh and I'm thinking it's to blame for popping my diff pin through the case.

Anyone running these feramic clutches yet?

I'd like to hear real world opinions on one before I buy one.
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March 11th, 2006, 06:57 PM   #7
izzy
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so how much is it for this clutch? for 2.5 2nd gen
 
March 11th, 2006, 07:29 PM   #8
jmmdm2
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if i read the web site correctly, the full face two side feramic is 550 with the better pressure plate. 82% increase in holding
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Motor #3 184 WHP 159 WTQ pulled from junkyard... DE PISTONS/HEADS 125,000 miles
BACK TO MOTOR #1 REBUILT, NO NUMBERS YET
 
March 12th, 2006, 02:22 PM   #9
izzy
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thats what i was afraid of
thanks
 
March 12th, 2006, 03:56 PM   #10
mx6gt04
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Ive got 800 miles on my OFE. Engages nice and smooth for a clutch that can hold as much as it does. Havent had the chance to up the boost and tune for 20 psi and 450ish whp yet though, so we shall see
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98 Ford Ranger 2wd: 5.0L twin turbo. 10 psi 408 rwhp 491 ft lbs 14 psi 478 rwhp 632 ft lbs
04 Volvo S60R 6 spd
 
March 12th, 2006, 05:04 PM   #11
jmmdm2
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Just to clarify...

You're running a full face feramic? Both the flywheel and PP sides of the disc are feramic? This PP is a heavy duty version?

I just want to make sure I'm buying exactly what I want.
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BACK TO MOTOR #1 REBUILT, NO NUMBERS YET
 
March 16th, 2006, 10:22 AM   #12
mx6gt04
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Im running the OFE, which is full face feramic on the flywheel and organic on the pressure plate with a sprung hub. Im using an 1800 lb pressure plate with it.
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98 Ford Ranger 2wd: 5.0L twin turbo. 10 psi 408 rwhp 491 ft lbs 14 psi 478 rwhp 632 ft lbs
04 Volvo S60R 6 spd
 
April 29th, 2006, 12:30 PM   #13
RigsPGT
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Im running one too
Its a full faced Feramic on both sides and so far (12k miles) has been holding good. Mine was rated somewhere 365whp or smth like that which i dont think i will exceed it for a while.
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April 30th, 2006, 04:39 PM   #14
akmer
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would this clutch be good for n/a? i only have the mods listed on my sig...and later down the road im gonna supercharge it, but is it worth the mony to jusr get it while im n/a?
 
April 30th, 2006, 06:31 PM   #15
RigsPGT
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would this clutch be good for n/a? i only have the mods listed on my sig...and later down the road im gonna supercharge it, but is it worth the mony to jusr get it while im n/a?
The good thing about this clutch is that it feels like stock but holds the power and right now im not boosted yet
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April 30th, 2006, 06:41 PM   #16
akmer
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^^^cool man, thanks for the info, ill should be ordering this in around 2 weeks
 
May 1st, 2006, 11:41 AM   #17
spada
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The good thing about this clutch is that it feels like stock but holds the power and right now im not boosted yet
so how do you know that it holds the power?

personally, i dislike my OFE clutch. it definitely holds all my power (which isn't much) but it slips for a half second if i'm shifting hard from gear to gear.
the CM-III had a much more positive grabbing feel.

go with the Feramic on both sides if you can. that medium metal organic side that the OFE has basically makes it grab like a stock clutch if you ask me.
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May 1st, 2006, 12:18 PM   #18
RigsPGT
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so how do you know that it holds the power?

personally, i dislike my OFE clutch. it definitely holds all my power (which isn't much) but it slips for a half second if i'm shifting hard from gear to gear.
the CM-III had a much more positive grabbing feel.

go with the Feramic on both sides if you can. that medium metal organic side that the OFE has basically makes it grab like a stock clutch if you ask me.

Good question Ben
I meant to say its holding great at stock levels that i am now! According to Andy at SBC, this full faced feramic (both sides) holds ~365lbs, a lot more than i'll throw on it (10psi). <-------will see how it goes.
And since you mentioned CM clutches, one thing i liked about my CM1 was that the clutch grabbed hard, i could chirp 3rd everyday.
If i still had the CM1 PP, i would have used that instead! SBC seems to use PPs that are rated at/or stock numbers. (i've read the discussion that comes into ur mind now)
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May 1st, 2006, 01:03 PM   #19
mx6gt04
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Ive got 400 hp and it doesnt slip for me

It grips like stock, but thats awesome. Ive broken 3rd gear twice and dont feel like doing it again. A harsh clutch is completely unneccessary.
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94 MX3 V6 - 403 whp 412 ft lbs 15 psi pump gas. RIP
98 Ford Ranger 2wd: 5.0L twin turbo. 10 psi 408 rwhp 491 ft lbs 14 psi 478 rwhp 632 ft lbs
04 Volvo S60R 6 spd
 
May 1st, 2006, 04:15 PM   #20
spada
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i totally agree that a harsh clutch is unncecessary.... but the good stick drivers know how to use their harsh clutch in a mild manner, which is why i would have liked for this clutch to be a little more harsh... like at least give me the ability to chirp 2nd gear.

oh well... it's a good daily clutch anyways, and it holds all the way to 7000rpm. i shouldn't complain too much. though if i were to do it again, i would have went either feramic on both sides, or segmented kevlar again
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May 1st, 2006, 10:16 PM   #21
samurai gt
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I have about 1500 miles on my OFE clutch. I believe that I have the lowest level pp on my setup and I love the way it grips. I have not run the car really hard yet but I have chirped 2nd without trying. The other day I was going along slow in 1st or 2nd I can't remember, then I decided to go WOT suddenly. I was surprised that I chirped the tires. I had a SBC kevlar TZ prior to this when i replaced it the pressure plate looked great. This is a great clutch.
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October 1st, 2007, 07:46 AM   #22
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south bend rules!
 
October 1st, 2007, 06:22 PM   #23
RigsPGT
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36k miles later and mine is still perfect. I changed a tranny at 30k and there was little to no wear on it. Great clutch soo far
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