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August 18th, 2004, 09:00 AM   #1
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Using a KLZE DISTY with HEI , anyone intersted?

I cleaned up the schematic for the 1993-1994 too, this one is much better than the old one.
'93-'94 KLZE Disty Schematic

This is a schematic for a 1993-1994 KLZE disty, HEI, external coil, MSD 6A. ZEDISTY with MSD


Here is a schematic for a 1995 PGT running the klze disty, and the HEI W/ MSD Blaster 2 coil. I hooked this up last night, and tried it out on a 1995 pgt, works great!

1995 PGT KLZE Disty Schematic

Here is the pin out for the 1995 disty plugs HERE

Here is the pin-out for the 4 pin klze disty Here

 
August 18th, 2004, 10:20 AM   #2
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Go for it, I'll add it to my archives.....just gotta find my ZE disty now
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August 18th, 2004, 10:51 AM   #3
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Go for it, I'll add it to my archives.....just gotta find my ZE disty now
Cool, one request is good enough for me! I have part of this done is MS Word, and a schematic is autocad. I will get it all together, along with a few pics, and make a post!

Look for it later in the week!
 
August 19th, 2004, 08:15 AM   #4
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For starters, a schematic

Here is a drawing to start with, more pics to follow. Plus another drawing detailing the use of the 4 pin fuel rail plug instead of the 4 pin 'ze disty plug


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...3-94-REV-C.gif

 
August 19th, 2004, 01:49 PM   #5
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If anybody is interested, I could do a write up on using the KLZE disty with the GM hei mod. I have pics, wiring diagrams, plug info, etc.

I know its been done, well i think so, nobody admits to it anyway, but it took a lot of searching, reading, etc to put all the pieces together

Let me know, but i dont want to post it just to be posting!

I've done this a couple times... but for myself I'm running stock ignition. Good mod though, definately deserves a write-up... go for it! the probe community will thank you.
 
August 19th, 2004, 02:12 PM   #6
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Here is a drawing to start with, more pics to follow. Plus another drawing detailing the use of the 4 pin fuel rail plug instead of the 4 pin 'ze disty plug
Looks good so far. BTW, save the picture in a .gif file. You have too many artifacts using jpeg compression. The gif will end up being <20kb and look crisp. Also, you should try to also label the wires based on position of the harness while installed. The colors of the wires change year to year, but the position does not (except '95-'97). Use "front(radiator side)", "rear(firewall side)", "driver's side", "passenger's side" as positioning descriptors if needed.

an example: 800x600 gif multicolor and crisp lettering 21.5 kb

http://home.comcast.net/~mmunoz70/z/msdiag01.gif
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August 19th, 2004, 07:43 PM   #7
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November 3rd, 2004, 12:11 PM   #8
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Any updates on this?
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December 2nd, 2004, 02:16 PM   #9
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Here is the schematic:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...3-94-REV-C.gif

 
December 2nd, 2004, 03:28 PM   #10
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Looks good so far. BTW, save the picture in a .gif file. You have too many artifacts using jpeg compression. The gif will end up being <20kb and look crisp. Also, you should try to also label the wires based on position of the harness while installed. The colors of the wires change year to year, but the position does not (except '95-'97). Use "front(radiator side)", "rear(firewall side)", "driver's side", "passenger's side" as positioning descriptors if needed.

an example: 800x600 gif multicolor and crisp lettering 21.5 kb

http://home.comcast.net/~mmunoz70/z/msdiag01.gif

Very nice!!! This pic helps me out a ton!

Thanks
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December 2nd, 2004, 11:37 PM   #11
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Good work.
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December 3rd, 2004, 09:55 PM   #12
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i hooked up my ZE disty with MSD blaster 2 coil and HEI last night. works great
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December 4th, 2004, 09:39 PM   #13
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i hooked up my ZE disty with MSD blaster 2 coil and HEI last night. works great
Ben,
Is it hooked up like my schematic?


Good job either way Dude!

I was going to do mine this weekend too, but....fuel pump took a dump, so i am changing that out and............its everything i thought it could be, a total PITA!
 
December 4th, 2004, 10:33 PM   #14
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well it's close to your schematic. the difference is, your schematic seems to be for a 95 disty or something. i had to use all 4 pins on the ZE disty. the blue/white one on your schematic of the ZE harness is the crankshaft position sensor and it gets plugged into the one labeled Unused on the 6pin. this is mandatory for me, since my megasquirt is based off that sensor.
the coil works great though, no problems, runs smooth!
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December 5th, 2004, 04:02 PM   #15
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well it's close to your schematic. the difference is, your schematic seems to be for a 95 disty or something. i had to use all 4 pins on the ZE disty. the blue/white one on your schematic of the ZE harness is the crankshaft position sensor and it gets plugged into the one labeled Unused on the 6pin. this is mandatory for me, since my megasquirt is based off that sensor.
the coil works great though, no problems, runs smooth!

Looks Like I need to redo the schematic! Its supposed to be for a 93-94. I will redo it tomorrow, and fix the links to the new drawing.

Other than what you stated above, did the schematic look right?

Thanks!
 
December 5th, 2004, 06:22 PM   #16
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yes, everything else was fine, you should redo the schmatic in the correct wire colors.
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December 6th, 2004, 02:08 PM   #17
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yes, everything else was fine, you should redo the schmatic in the correct wire colors.
Okay Ben, I updated with the wire change, can you take a look and see what you think now?
 
December 6th, 2004, 02:34 PM   #18
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yup right on, that's how mine's hooked up, and working great
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February 19th, 2005, 06:37 PM   #19
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i have a question about the 4 pin j spec plug

the color of my wires are why different from that diagram

from the front of my engine to the rear first i have pink then orange then red/blue (thickest) then black/red

what wires are what? can you tell me from front to rear of you engine compartment what wire is the grond, pcm power relay, crank pos, sensor, cyl ident?
 
February 21st, 2005, 09:59 AM   #20
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I did this mod a couple years ago and have the diagrams all laid out as well. I had the setup running with the MSD Digital 6+ ignition and Blaster HVC coil though, so mine was a little different. If anyone would like to see my diagrams, let me know, I can scan em..
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February 21st, 2005, 11:44 AM   #21
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I did this mod a couple years ago and have the diagrams all laid out as well. I had the setup running with the MSD Digital 6+ ignition and Blaster HVC coil though, so mine was a little different. If anyone would like to see my diagrams, let me know, I can scan em..
I would like to see them....!!!
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March 2nd, 2005, 01:54 PM   #22
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I am planning this on a '95, since my stock disty might be fried. What is the main difference in the wiring, since the '95+ distributers have a five wire lead versus the 6 wire lead? Also, I see a 1K ohm resistor in the mix. Will any 1K Ohm resistor work?
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March 2nd, 2005, 07:03 PM   #23
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I am planning this on a '95, since my stock disty might be fried. What is the main difference in the wiring, since the '95+ distributers have a five wire lead versus the 6 wire lead? Also, I see a 1K ohm resistor in the mix. Will any 1K Ohm resistor work?
See new schematics at post #50 for 1995 details

 
March 3rd, 2005, 08:02 AM   #24
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What is the wattage on the 1K ohm resistor? My local Radio Shack only carries 0.25 and 0.5 watt versions. I found the HEI module and the Blaster Coil locally, so all I lack is the resistor.
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March 3rd, 2005, 08:12 AM   #25
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I would go with the .5 watt.
 

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