Bolt-on Big brake kit

PGT97_Racer · May 15th, 2008, 08:32 AM

Mazda6 bolt-on “Big Brake Kit”

If your looking to upgrade your front brakes but don’t want to have to dish out 800$ or more for a kit, there is an easier solution.

The Mazda6 front calipers are a direct bolt-on to the Probe/MX-6/626. That is right, a DIRECT BOLT-ON!! There are no modifications required to install this setup on your vehicle. Just to clarify one little aspect, although you will be running larger rotors, the caliper itself is still a single piston setup, unlike some kits that offer dual pistons (or more). But for the price (more than half) it is worth it.

Every model of Mazda6 front brakes fit our vehicles, if doing this setup; you must be consistent with the year model you are using. So if you by calipers for a specific model, you must buy the matching rotors and pads. Parts are not interchangeable between models. Here are the specifications of the different models and what wheel diameter is required for them to fit:
Disc diameter:
03-05 Mazda 6 => 11.1" => Fits no problem with a 16" wheel
06-07 Mazda 6 => 11.8" => Fits no problem with a 16" wheel
06-07 MazdaSpeed 6 => 12.6" => Must have a 17" wheel minimum

Parts you will need in order to complete the swap:
-Front Calipers (make sure it comes with the bracket as some times they are sold without)
-Front Rotors
-Set of Pads

The price for the parts varies on where you buy them, I personally spent around 300$ (including shipping) for my setup. This includes 03-05 Calipers, R1concept Rotors and Hawk HPS Pads.

As for the rear brakes, the rotors are also larger in diameter versus our stock rotors and the rear calipers will bolt-up to the hub as well. The problem is that the E-Brake cable will not reach the bracket on the caliper, so you will not be able to use your E-Brake.

Here is a list of other vehicles that use the same brakes as the Mazda6:
2006-2008 Ford Fusion
2007-2008 Lincoln MKZ
2006-2006 Lincoln Zephyr
2006-2008 Mercury Milan

Here are pictures of a 2006-2007 setup:

Stock:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...4/DSCF5340.jpg

Comparaison:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...4/DSCF5342.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...4/DSCF5343.jpg

Installed:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...4/DSCF5347.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...4/DSCF5348.jpg

Enjoy your bigger brakes!

Thanks to:
MetalPGT for the specs
94pgt94 for the detail pictures

2ndgengt · May 15th, 2008, 11:26 AM

thats good to know- only down side is the single piston caliper

MonoxideChild · May 15th, 2008, 12:14 PM

this was mentioned awhile ago actually. someone installed a BBK offered for the mazda6 on the probe, and it bolted right up, no mod's needed.

PGT97_Racer · May 15th, 2008, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxmonoxidechil

this was mentioned awhile ago actually. someone installed a BBK offered for the mazda6 on the probe, and it bolted right up, no mod's needed.

That is quite possible. But i am sure that a larger rim is required, i only have 16" rims. So this is a fairly good upgrade and consideraly cheap to. Total parts came to around 300$ (Calipers, pads, rotors)

gw93pgt · May 15th, 2008, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGT97_Racer

That is quite possible. But i am sure that a larger rim is required, i only have 16" rims. So this is a fairly good upgrade and consideraly cheap to. Total parts came to around 300$ (Calipers, pads, rotors)

So will the set-up you did from the mazda6 fit with 16" rims? Also how many pistons is the protege brake upgrade for the probe? What would be better? Protege or Mazda6?

MonoxideChild · May 15th, 2008, 03:02 PM

both are single piston, both might even be the exact same, no one has compared them yet.

and 16's would fit, being that the steelie rims on the 6's are 16's, so they would have to fit. depending on back spacing of course. but thats with any brake kit.

Pumpkin King · May 15th, 2008, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGT97_Racer

Total parts came to around 300$ (Calipers, pads, rotors)

Is that new or jy price? and did you check about the rear?

MonoxideChild · May 15th, 2008, 03:27 PM

cityracer is running the rear mazda6 disc's on his mazdaspeed protege calipers.

i think he said the calipers on the 6 might be the same ones. but im not 100% sure on that last part. u would have to ask him

David Halbleib · May 15th, 2008, 04:38 PM

Anyone know what it would take to moddify these to fit a 1st gen? <hint> Pat </hint>

MonoxideChild · May 15th, 2008, 04:48 PM

eric (mazdameister) bolted up a set of hy-dra-cyl 2nd gen BBK onto his 1st gen mx6gt. so he would be the person to ask about anything he had to modify. but if i remember right, it was a bolt on affair.

personally, ive never tried it. im looking at oem 4 pot mazda fc calipers to mod up on my 626gt

David Halbleib · May 15th, 2008, 05:00 PM

Excellent! I hope to see him this weekend at BAMM, I'll ask him.

I totally forgot about the hy-dra-cyl fitment. D'oh!

PGT97_Racer · May 15th, 2008, 05:05 PM

The 6 calipers do fit in the rear, but you'll loose the e-brake.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pumpkin King

Is that new or jy price? and did you check about the rear?

Calipers are used (got them for 80$) from a mazda forum and the rest is new.

Staats · May 15th, 2008, 05:45 PM

Do you have a pic of the new set up? I'd like to see how much more rotor size you gain.

Dima · May 15th, 2008, 06:16 PM

wow this is awesome, i'm so doing this

PGT97_Racer · May 15th, 2008, 06:24 PM

I'll have pics tomorrow, i don't have before pics to compare though.

bocajwest05 · May 15th, 2008, 07:22 PM

so i looked the parts up on napa online and iwonder is this for the i or s model and also do you need to modify the brak lines at all or the rotors do they fit over the hub with out having to bore them out at all like with the 12.1 VR4 rotors

blackpgt1994 · May 15th, 2008, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGT97_Racer

I'll have pics tomorrow, i don't have before pics to compare though.

Would this be with your FD's on?
Cause i'm very interested in this. Nice work

PGT97_Racer · May 16th, 2008, 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bocajwest05

so i looked the parts up on napa online and iwonder is this for the i or s model and also do you need to modify the brak lines at all or the rotors do they fit over the hub with out having to bore them out at all like with the 12.1 VR4 rotors

The Calipers between '03 to '05 are the same regardless of the model. As for the rest, like I mentionned above, this is a BOLT-ON kit, NO MODIFICATIONS are needed for them to work. No cutting, no brackets to be fabed-up, no boring of the hub, no change in brake lines, no nothing!!

driftwood · May 16th, 2008, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGT97_Racer

I just finished putting on a big brake kit from another car that is a direct bolt-on to the Probes. Slighty larger front calipers and an 11.1" rotor. The caliper itself is still a single piston however. I should be able to test the new system later today or tomorrow.

I am sure you are wondering what did I use. The setup came from a 2003-2005 Mazda6. There is absolutely NO MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED.

how much larger is 11.1" compared to stock pgt size?

cant wait to see pics!

David Halbleib · May 16th, 2008, 09:34 AM

I believe stock front rotor diameter for 1st gens are 10.6" and it's 10.4" for 2nd gens.

So 11.1" would definitely be a noticeable difference.

PGT97_Racer · May 16th, 2008, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackpgt1994

Would this be with your FD's on?
Cause i'm very interested in this. Nice work

Yes this is with the FD's and there aren't any clearance issues.

bocajwest05 · May 16th, 2008, 12:27 PM

awesome, i have a new project for the summer then

MonoxideChild · May 16th, 2008, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bocajwest05

so i looked the parts up on napa online and iwonder is this for the i or s model

there is no difference. just like there is no difference with the probes if you have a 4 cyl, or v6 or turbo (unless you have crappy drums in the rear of course)

bocajwest05 · May 16th, 2008, 06:32 PM

sweet i wasnt sure. because i went to napaonline and they asked me to specify there so i want sure but i see you have a six so i trust that and this will definately be a summer project for me to compliment the sus. upgrades

gw93pgt · May 17th, 2008, 03:22 PM

So would it be logical to do the mazda 6 rotors, calipers, pads on the front and then go to the 99-03 protege calipers, rotors and pads on the back to keep the e-brake?

May 15th, 2008, 08:32 AM	#1
PGT97_Racer Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada Age: 28 Posts: 2,629	Bolt-on Big brake kit Mazda6 bolt-on “Big Brake Kit” If your looking to upgrade your front brakes but don’t want to have to dish out 800$ or more for a kit, there is an easier solution. The Mazda6 front calipers are a direct bolt-on to the Probe/MX-6/626. That is right, a DIRECT BOLT-ON!! There are no modifications required to install this setup on your vehicle. Just to clarify one little aspect, although you will be running larger rotors, the caliper itself is still a single piston setup, unlike some kits that offer dual pistons (or more). But for the price (more than half) it is worth it. Every model of Mazda6 front brakes fit our vehicles, if doing this setup; you must be consistent with the year model you are using. So if you by calipers for a specific model, you must buy the matching rotors and pads. Parts are not interchangeable between models. Here are the specifications of the different models and what wheel diameter is required for them to fit: Disc diameter: 03-05 Mazda 6 => 11.1" => Fits no problem with a 16" wheel 06-07 Mazda 6 => 11.8" => Fits no problem with a 16" wheel 06-07 MazdaSpeed 6 => 12.6" => Must have a 17" wheel minimum Parts you will need in order to complete the swap: -Front Calipers (make sure it comes with the bracket as some times they are sold without) -Front Rotors -Set of Pads The price for the parts varies on where you buy them, I personally spent around 300$ (including shipping) for my setup. This includes 03-05 Calipers, R1concept Rotors and Hawk HPS Pads. As for the rear brakes, the rotors are also larger in diameter versus our stock rotors and the rear calipers will bolt-up to the hub as well. The problem is that the E-Brake cable will not reach the bracket on the caliper, so you will not be able to use your E-Brake. Here is a list of other vehicles that use the same brakes as the Mazda6: 2006-2008 Ford Fusion 2007-2008 Lincoln MKZ 2006-2006 Lincoln Zephyr 2006-2008 Mercury Milan Here are pictures of a 2006-2007 setup: Stock: http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...4/DSCF5340.jpg Comparaison: http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...4/DSCF5342.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...4/DSCF5343.jpg Installed: http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...4/DSCF5347.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...4/DSCF5348.jpg Enjoy your bigger brakes! Thanks to: MetalPGT for the specs 94pgt94 for the detail pictures __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. KLZE, Hotshot Headers, Hotshot CAI, Pacesetter exhaust, 626 swar bar, AWR adjustable endlinks, Centreforce clutch, MX-3 Flywheel, JJ resonated TP, Eibach Springs, Shogun Rims, Mach 1 Chin and To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by PGT97_Racer; June 16th, 2009 at 04:40 AM.

May 15th, 2008, 11:26 AM	#2
2ndgengt Turbo Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: oregon Age: 22 Posts: 1,908	thats good to know- only down side is the single piston caliper __________________ Rio Red To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. mtx Mods - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. , Probinator chip, Bomz cai, 2.5 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. catback, 2.5 custom tp, ACT, Fidanza, ss line, ssac headers, poly inserts, Intrax, illuminas, cusco camber plates de-t coming soon'ish To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. zoom-zoom to the max To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. GrpJuce is up and running

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MonoxideChild POC Mod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: RockFord, IL. ChiPoC Age: 30 Posts: 12,236	both are single piston, both might even be the exact same, no one has compared them yet. and 16's would fit, being that the steelie rims on the 6's are 16's, so they would have to fit. depending on back spacing of course. but thats with any brake kit. __________________ PaTricK To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ~ 89 PLx, 92PgT. 88 colt GTS turbo, 90 FE3 626 GT hatch, 05 Mazda6, 09 Kia Sportage 4x4 v6 ~ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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MonoxideChild POC Mod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: RockFord, IL. ChiPoC Age: 30 Posts: 12,236	cityracer is running the rear mazda6 disc's on his mazdaspeed protege calipers. i think he said the calipers on the 6 might be the same ones. but im not 100% sure on that last part. u would have to ask him __________________ PaTricK To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ~ 89 PLx, 92PgT. 88 colt GTS turbo, 90 FE3 626 GT hatch, 05 Mazda6, 09 Kia Sportage 4x4 v6 ~ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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MonoxideChild POC Mod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: RockFord, IL. ChiPoC Age: 30 Posts: 12,236	eric (mazdameister) bolted up a set of hy-dra-cyl 2nd gen BBK onto his 1st gen mx6gt. so he would be the person to ask about anything he had to modify. but if i remember right, it was a bolt on affair. personally, ive never tried it. im looking at oem 4 pot mazda fc calipers to mod up on my 626gt __________________ PaTricK To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ~ 89 PLx, 92PgT. 88 colt GTS turbo, 90 FE3 626 GT hatch, 05 Mazda6, 09 Kia Sportage 4x4 v6 ~ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Dima BATN, but also known as: TheDimon Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kitchener, ON Posts: 261	wow this is awesome, i'm so doing this

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bocajwest05 PT Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Goldsboro, NC Age: 22 Posts: 459	so i looked the parts up on napa online and iwonder is this for the i or s model and also do you need to modify the brak lines at all or the rotors do they fit over the hub with out having to bore them out at all like with the 12.1 VR4 rotors __________________ 97 GT To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 95 GT To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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David Halbleib POC Mod Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville, KY Age: 30 Posts: 2,769	I believe stock front rotor diameter for 1st gens are 10.6" and it's 10.4" for 2nd gens. So 11.1" would definitely be a noticeable difference. __________________ Visit the new KyPO site!!!! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 91 PLX 3.0L Vulcan... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *Myspace...* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.*

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bocajwest05 PT Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Goldsboro, NC Age: 22 Posts: 459	sweet i wasnt sure. because i went to napaonline and they asked me to specify there so i want sure but i see you have a six so i trust that and this will definately be a summer project for me to compliment the sus. upgrades __________________ 97 GT To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 95 GT To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

May 17th, 2008, 03:22 PM	#25
gw93pgt Juiced Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: London, ON Age: 21 Posts: 905	So would it be logical to do the mazda 6 rotors, calipers, pads on the front and then go to the 99-03 protege calipers, rotors and pads on the back to keep the e-brake?