mx6lx vs 365whp c5 vs moded srt4 - Page 10

mx64life · July 26th, 2008, 11:31 PM

^ ROFL! Does that mean we don't have to worry about NOT having a PT? Hope so.....

BTW, nice math. I don't have that kinda patience....

KLZE Porsche · July 26th, 2008, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mattm

Mike, I'm using this race to determine how much faster or slower he is than the vette. My point is if he can only beat a ze 5psi by 1-3 carlenghts or whatever the video shows then basically there is no way he can even come close to a c5 let alone a 240sx makig 500whp.

Now I'm just clearing up the current race. Hopefully the vid will show him winning by 3 carlengths in which case the extra person won't really have mattered. But if it's within that 1 to 1.5 car length I'm still saying that he would have lost.

Agreed.

Matt,

It is still to much bickering over a race which has a definite outcome however you stack it. Phill still won no matter by how much. That is different than claiming to have beat a 365 hp C5 with a 200hp MX6. You are only going to give phil something to distract himself away from the good stuff. You are making it possible for him to not face the jury with the evidence that has been presented. Just make him answer for the one big one. Did he win against the 365 hp Vette or did he get spanked? Have him answer that question only! Because his own video has the evidence in it. It is there!

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Originally Posted by mx64life

^ ROFL! Does that mean we don't have to worry about NOT having a PT? Hope so.....

BTW, nice math. I don't have that kinda patience....

Thanks - told you all I was nuts!

mattm · July 26th, 2008, 11:35 PM

Sorry Mike I got a little fired up there. Ok Phil so did you beat the c5 or not?

mx64life · July 26th, 2008, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mattm

Actually every one of my wins will let people know if there was an extra person in the car or not. Let me ask you this. If you had three people in the car and lost by a car you would still say you got beat? If so good for you most poeple would not call that a loss. Phil knows well the difference that weight makes in a race which is why he strips that car to weigh so little. If you have an extra 120 lbs as he says or at least 150 as shawn says thats a big big difference. If you dont count that great for you pal, but most people will, and if you listen to shawn he points out the fact that he had an extra person in his car for the video.

I would call that a loss. And if I was racing I wouldn't have 3 people in my car. If Phil knows this about the weight factor (which he obviously does) and Siknin didn't pull out any weight that means one of two things: 1. Siknin thought he was fast enough to make up the difference. 2. He didn't care or was ignorant. I'm gonna go with 'didn't care Alex for 200'.

siknin · July 26th, 2008, 11:40 PM

I didnt care to rip my entire interior of my car out just to race. I have had my car since 1999 and i ran it at the track on motor all these years with full interior. But since i see so many people strippin the interior then i might just jump on the diet program and do the same. But i will still at least have the front seats. I just never really felt the urge to ride around in a tin can. I agree to race as my car sits. Maybe for the rematch to show the difference i will gut it. I realize the power to weight ratio isnt in the favor of the 2900 lb probe with 2 passengers. But like i said before its not that serious.

mx64life · July 26th, 2008, 11:47 PM

I know I'm just saying that you knew what you were getting into and you don't seem to mind. I find it funny you're the one that seems to care the least but your the one that lost said race. Lol! I totally understand the daily driven full interior car thing, I'd hate if my daily was gutted....my track car though...well it's got no interior lol!

KLZE Porsche · July 26th, 2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by siknin

I didnt care to rip my entire interior of my car out just to race. I have had my car since 1999 and i ran it at the track on motor all these years with full interior. But since i see so many people strippin the interior then i might just jump on the diet program and do the same. But i will still at least have the front seats. I just never really felt the urge to ride around in a tin can. I agree to race as my car sits. Maybe for the rematch to show the difference i will gut it. I realize the power to weight ratio isnt in the favor of the 2900 lb probe with 2 passengers. But like i said before its not that serious.

I totally agree! You have to have at least carpet to absorb all of that food stuff that you spill. And the back seat makes a great backboard for soda cans and McD's bags. Without all that interior stuff then when you toss a soda back you will hear clank clank. And just imagine all of that noise when you have the windows rolled down tryin' to impress a couple of females in a car next to you. They might hear all those cans clanking and clackin' around back there and think you live in your car or something!

siknin · July 26th, 2008, 11:51 PM

I mean i know how many people totally strip their cars to race. I mean its cool, i just dont do it. I may try it out to prove a point or something.... but will probably put it back in later.

klze porsche

Yea i kinda like havin a carpet. the only thing missin in my car is the back seats, and i have enough tools in the car to make up for that lost weight lol. and i still race like that. I just never been that guy ridin wit no carpet, no dash, no passenger seats, no panels and all that. I still want my so called project car to have some normal functional stuff other than the boosted motor lol.

KLZE Porsche · July 27th, 2008, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by siknin

Yea i kinda like havin a carpet. the only thing missin in my car is the back seats, and i have enough tools in the car to make up for that lost weight lol. and i still race like that. I just never been that guy ridin wit no carpet, no dash, no passenger seats, no panels and all that. I still want my so called project car to have some normal functional stuff other than the boosted motor lol.

I used to run them totally stripped but one huge problem with that was noise. That spitfire I had was so damned noisy that you couldn't even hear the stereo through the huge 10 inch woofers over the engine and road noise. If I had a passenger in the car we would have to shout to have a conversation.

I like to listen to the radio now and then. I am also like you in that I carry tools in the trunk but I bet I carry a bit more than you do! I carry a full 3/8" set and a lot of 1/2" stuff to include a massive breaker bar. I carry a full assortment of hoses to include every hose that is known for busting on a probe. I carry a spare distributor and a spare radiator blow-off surge tank (one that mounts to the radiator) I carry a spare cam belt, jack, jackstand, full size spare tire, tow strap, spark plugs and I am sure that I am forgetting some stuff.

My race days are over and I really don't normally frequent threads such as "Kill Stories" but I just happened to notice the 365 hp C5 Vs. 90 MX6LX and I felt compelled to read beacause I thought somebody had some sort of insane MX6LX that could actually beat a 365 hp C5. But I was highly dissappointed when I saw that he dynoed a best of 107 hp without his spray. I knew at that moment that he was just spouting. And when he kept on with the game -then so did I. But I have wasted countless hours now with this that I could have used efficiently somewhere else. But at least I guess I got to brush up on my math some!!

I do race occasionally but it is only when some ricer honda with a 4 foot tall fast and furious rear wing pulls up to me and acts like he just has to "show that old guy a thing or two" But then who ends up showing who? And I do race myself when I am testing ECUs. In that instance I go to my own private strip and let her rip. But I have nothing to proove to anybody anymore really. I did my prooving much earlier in life.

And I haven't totally been pickled either -I do have a project car in my shop but it has been in-work now for over two years because building cars and racing them is no longer my number one priority. And it is actually kind of good that way. So I see where you are coming from! I wouldn't sweat the loss either. It is a lot more mature approach!

***c-man*** · July 27th, 2008, 12:13 AM

Don't gut it. The "good idea" disappears every time it's driven off the track.

Let's avoid name-calling.

mx64life · July 27th, 2008, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by c-man

Don't gut it. The "good idea" disappears every time it's driven off the track.

Agreed. But sometimes...I just can't help it LOL!

my95gtprob · July 27th, 2008, 01:16 AM

After re-reading the initial post's I don't find it that hard to believe. When my ZE was on a 75 shot I played with 2 c5 vette's. And I do mean PLAYED! Granted they didn't have 365hp either. My ZE on 5lbs feels just as quick if not quicker than it did with the 75 shot. If he is beating a ZE on 5lbs by 3 lengths then I can honestly say that I think he could be telling the truth. After all he never saw a dyno it was just hear-say.

Just something to think about.

mx64life · July 27th, 2008, 01:22 AM

True but Andy a stock C5 has 345 or 350 hp at the crank...or a lil over 300whp. The vette he claims to have walked is basically a bolted Z06....big difference, like a 75 shot different.

my95gtprob · July 27th, 2008, 01:36 AM

Yeah but I beat a NEW M3 tonight. They have 414 hp. There is absolutely know way that should have happened, but it did. And that was from a dig.

mx64life · July 27th, 2008, 01:53 AM

True. Driver maybe

From a dig alot can happen, from a roll...well unless you miss a shift its all up to the cars...

my95gtprob · July 27th, 2008, 02:02 AM

Word. Who knows the vette driver could have miss shifted every gear and not to mention the possibility of 3 out of 4 tires going flat.

mx64life · July 27th, 2008, 02:03 AM

Nah don't they have run-flats? Lol!

my95gtprob · July 27th, 2008, 02:04 AM

No thats the 1st gen mx6's....I mean space ships.

mx64life · July 27th, 2008, 02:06 AM

You mean........ I have a spaceship?!?!?! SUUWHHEET!!! I'm soo going to lay the smack down on a viper!

my95gtprob · July 27th, 2008, 02:08 AM

OOOOOOOOOORRR you could call ademan. He would give your ship a good run.

mx64life · July 27th, 2008, 02:09 AM

Nah he's got no seats....I can't compete with that....

mattm · July 27th, 2008, 07:20 AM

So...where is this video? Are we ever going to see it or is it still being edited.....

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Originally Posted by mx64life

Nah he's got no seats....I can't compete with that....

Hey you are such an awesome racer and know your shit Lets see some pics of your cars...... Would be interesting they must be pretty damned fast!!!!

Anyone in this thread that doesnt know much about racing (which I'm assuming a couple people in here) This video illustrates the difference a camera guy makes in a car. This is Siknin in his ze vs and de. Notice how the de gets pulled by a couple carlengths but when the camera guy is in Siknin's car its an even race. What would you call that race people?

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/P...obe_142716.htm

WestPalmGT · July 27th, 2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ademan

1st of all, do u think if i come down there, im bringing my turbo mx6gt, ive seen what most of yall cars can do on video, i think i can take 99% of the kl there. the other 1% probably have too much traction for me to beat.all i do is streetrace too, i care less about the track but im going tonight anyway

this right here tells me that if you did happen to come here you would get your ass handed to you. More then half of the FL crew are boosted and not running 5lbs.. If you could only beat a ze on 5lbs only by a few cars then there is no way your claim of beating 99% of the FL crew is likely! You have me,Jordan (shaodome), remix sean (SS2g94PGT) boosting 8lbs on a 626 motor,Andy (hppwdn) with his 12 sec mx3,and Pat (Badassprobe) with his ze on 10lbs. There also funzi,will,rigs, that are all turboed makeing good power.. so yeah id keep my ass there to!!

siknin · July 27th, 2008, 10:31 AM

that was me vs a millenia ze. wit like a 250lb camera man

mattm · July 27th, 2008, 10:37 AM

Yeah it still proves the point tho. An extra person makes a difference.

Anyway if its taking phil this long to post up this vid then hes changing shit....

July 26th, 2008, 11:31 PM	#226
mx64life PT Know it All Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Jackstand Racing League Age: 23 Posts: 3,837	^ ROFL! Does that mean we don't have to worry about NOT having a PT? Hope so..... BTW, nice math. I don't have that kinda patience.... __________________ 89 PGT, 92 GSX, 92 Talon TSi AWD, 93 Talon TSi AWD, 91 G-VR4 (1346/2000) . I break parts. "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough" - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

July 26th, 2008, 11:35 PM	#228
mattm Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: harrisburg, pennsylvania Age: 27 Posts: 5,142	Sorry Mike I got a little fired up there. Ok Phil so did you beat the c5 or not? __________________ mods: Custom intake manifold pacesetter headers borlacatback EATON M62 SUPERCHARGER,millenia s injectors, megasquirt, mx3 fly,ngk wires, custom paint,electric exhaust cutout, methanol injection and 28 degrees timing at 6-7 psi dyno result: 245whp 227 ftlbs tq best 1/4: 13.80 at 103.28mph with a 60' of 2.170 coulda been better but ok for now To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

July 26th, 2008, 11:40 PM	#230
siknin Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virginia Age: 29 Posts: 2,124	I didnt care to rip my entire interior of my car out just to race. I have had my car since 1999 and i ran it at the track on motor all these years with full interior. But since i see so many people strippin the interior then i might just jump on the diet program and do the same. But i will still at least have the front seats. I just never really felt the urge to ride around in a tin can. I agree to race as my car sits. Maybe for the rematch to show the difference i will gut it. I realize the power to weight ratio isnt in the favor of the 2900 lb probe with 2 passengers. But like i said before its not that serious. __________________ 94 probe ze turbo Last edited by siknin; July 26th, 2008 at 11:42 PM.

July 26th, 2008, 11:47 PM	#231
mx64life PT Know it All Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Jackstand Racing League Age: 23 Posts: 3,837	I know I'm just saying that you knew what you were getting into and you don't seem to mind. I find it funny you're the one that seems to care the least but your the one that lost said race. Lol! I totally understand the daily driven full interior car thing, I'd hate if my daily was gutted....my track car though...well it's got no interior lol! __________________ 89 PGT, 92 GSX, 92 Talon TSi AWD, 93 Talon TSi AWD, 91 G-VR4 (1346/2000) . I break parts. "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough" - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

July 26th, 2008, 11:51 PM	#233
siknin Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virginia Age: 29 Posts: 2,124	I mean i know how many people totally strip their cars to race. I mean its cool, i just dont do it. I may try it out to prove a point or something.... but will probably put it back in later. klze porsche Yea i kinda like havin a carpet. the only thing missin in my car is the back seats, and i have enough tools in the car to make up for that lost weight lol. and i still race like that. I just never been that guy ridin wit no carpet, no dash, no passenger seats, no panels and all that. I still want my so called project car to have some normal functional stuff other than the boosted motor lol. __________________ 94 probe ze turbo Last edited by siknin; July 26th, 2008 at 11:55 PM.

July 27th, 2008, 12:13 AM	#235
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July 27th, 2008, 01:16 AM	#237
my95gtprob What would BREESUS do? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: K-town Age: 25 Posts: 2,544	After re-reading the initial post's I don't find it that hard to believe. When my ZE was on a 75 shot I played with 2 c5 vette's. And I do mean PLAYED! Granted they didn't have 365hp either. My ZE on 5lbs feels just as quick if not quicker than it did with the 75 shot. If he is beating a ZE on 5lbs by 3 lengths then I can honestly say that I think he could be telling the truth. After all he never saw a dyno it was just hear-say. Just something to think about. __________________ "I come from a very big family, nine parents." "Never let the truth stand in the way of a good story"

July 27th, 2008, 01:22 AM	#238
mx64life PT Know it All Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Jackstand Racing League Age: 23 Posts: 3,837	True but Andy a stock C5 has 345 or 350 hp at the crank...or a lil over 300whp. The vette he claims to have walked is basically a bolted Z06....big difference, like a 75 shot different. __________________ 89 PGT, 92 GSX, 92 Talon TSi AWD, 93 Talon TSi AWD, 91 G-VR4 (1346/2000) . I break parts. "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough" - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

July 27th, 2008, 01:36 AM	#239
my95gtprob What would BREESUS do? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: K-town Age: 25 Posts: 2,544	Yeah but I beat a NEW M3 tonight. They have 414 hp. There is absolutely know way that should have happened, but it did. And that was from a dig. __________________ "I come from a very big family, nine parents." "Never let the truth stand in the way of a good story"

July 27th, 2008, 01:53 AM	#240
mx64life PT Know it All Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Jackstand Racing League Age: 23 Posts: 3,837	True. Driver maybe From a dig alot can happen, from a roll...well unless you miss a shift its all up to the cars... __________________ 89 PGT, 92 GSX, 92 Talon TSi AWD, 93 Talon TSi AWD, 91 G-VR4 (1346/2000) . I break parts. "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough" - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

July 27th, 2008, 02:02 AM	#241
my95gtprob What would BREESUS do? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: K-town Age: 25 Posts: 2,544	Word. Who knows the vette driver could have miss shifted every gear and not to mention the possibility of 3 out of 4 tires going flat. __________________ "I come from a very big family, nine parents." "Never let the truth stand in the way of a good story"

July 27th, 2008, 02:03 AM	#242
mx64life PT Know it All Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Jackstand Racing League Age: 23 Posts: 3,837	Nah don't they have run-flats? Lol! __________________ 89 PGT, 92 GSX, 92 Talon TSi AWD, 93 Talon TSi AWD, 91 G-VR4 (1346/2000) . I break parts. "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough" - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

July 27th, 2008, 02:04 AM	#243
my95gtprob What would BREESUS do? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: K-town Age: 25 Posts: 2,544	No thats the 1st gen mx6's....I mean space ships. __________________ "I come from a very big family, nine parents." "Never let the truth stand in the way of a good story"

July 27th, 2008, 02:06 AM	#244
mx64life PT Know it All Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Jackstand Racing League Age: 23 Posts: 3,837	You mean........ I have a spaceship?!?!?! SUUWHHEET!!! I'm soo going to lay the smack down on a viper! __________________ 89 PGT, 92 GSX, 92 Talon TSi AWD, 93 Talon TSi AWD, 91 G-VR4 (1346/2000) . I break parts. "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough" - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

July 27th, 2008, 02:08 AM	#245
my95gtprob What would BREESUS do? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: K-town Age: 25 Posts: 2,544	OOOOOOOOOORRR you could call ademan. He would give your ship a good run. __________________ "I come from a very big family, nine parents." "Never let the truth stand in the way of a good story"

July 27th, 2008, 02:09 AM	#246
mx64life PT Know it All Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Jackstand Racing League Age: 23 Posts: 3,837	Nah he's got no seats....I can't compete with that.... __________________ 89 PGT, 92 GSX, 92 Talon TSi AWD, 93 Talon TSi AWD, 91 G-VR4 (1346/2000) . I break parts. "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough" - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

July 27th, 2008, 10:31 AM	#249
siknin Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virginia Age: 29 Posts: 2,124	that was me vs a millenia ze. wit like a 250lb camera man __________________ 94 probe ze turbo

July 27th, 2008, 10:37 AM	#250
mattm Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: harrisburg, pennsylvania Age: 27 Posts: 5,142	Yeah it still proves the point tho. An extra person makes a difference. Anyway if its taking phil this long to post up this vid then hes changing shit.... __________________ mods: Custom intake manifold pacesetter headers borlacatback EATON M62 SUPERCHARGER,millenia s injectors, megasquirt, mx3 fly,ngk wires, custom paint,electric exhaust cutout, methanol injection and 28 degrees timing at 6-7 psi dyno result: 245whp 227 ftlbs tq best 1/4: 13.80 at 103.28mph with a 60' of 2.170 coulda been better but ok for now To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.