KLZE PGT ATX vs. Built H22 Hatch - Page 2

1993fpgtatx · March 19th, 2009, 07:54 PM

well. since it is by SUCH high demand that I run the hatch...maybe I will.

1990pgl · March 19th, 2009, 07:55 PM

with spray and without spray want to see the outcome of both. it shoudl be mine

MgXs3 · March 19th, 2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 1993fpgtatx

well. since it is by SUCH high demand that I run the hatch...maybe I will.

95PGTTech · March 19th, 2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cf_z

x2 on both.

especially if that thing is built, it prolly MOVES.

yeah, like 13s. shit moves.
I am constantly amused by the perspective of this forum.
I guess I'm spoiled by hanging out in faster circles.

akmer · March 19th, 2009, 09:43 PM

^^^13's are decent for a 4 banger or so..its not like your mustang could hit that stock.. and i dont see whats so funny on the prespective we have on this forum, i been around fast circles and i mostly daily a 500whp car....

i still think racing any kind of form or fast/slow its still interesting and fun.. its only about fun to me, as soon as you keep thinking its for someother reason or start thinking your the ish, you lost prespective of what this hobby its to you IMO

95PGTTech · March 19th, 2009, 09:55 PM

1. My car went 13s stock, with 114,000 miles on it, with my wife driving. And I have the timeslip to prove it. And other than the 94-95 Cobras, which are really nothing more than +10HP GT's, these are the slowest year Cobras ever produced. But this thread and my comment had absolutely nothing to do with my car, which is set up for street driving and open track opportunities, not drag racing.
2. 13s are decent for that car, and a vast improvement over what it was stock, the implication by the poster was that it was blazingly fast. When in reality, Honda Oddeseys these days come with 265HP - while 13s are decent for that car, 13s overall are not impressive.
3. When I say fast crowd, I'm talking 8.50 bracket index class, not 500whp. Like guys who don't race on the street.
4. What is "ish"? Is this the new high school word of the month? Did "P Diddy" or some other multi-millionaire 'hard-life' 'thug' create a new term on MTV this week?

1990pgl · March 19th, 2009, 09:59 PM

im 21 and watch mtv all the time wtf is the ish. must be a vh1 thing

siknin · March 19th, 2009, 10:01 PM

Ish the alternative to sayin sh*t and its been around for years.

13s, 10s, 11s, 20s who cares. And a h22 hatch is easily a 100mph+ trapping car on motor.

anyway lighten up it ain't that serious.

1990pgl · March 19th, 2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by siknin

Ish the alternative to sayin sh*t and its been around for years.

13s, 10s, 11s, 20s who cares. And a h22 hatch is easily a 100mph+ trapping car on motor.

anyway lighten up it ain't that serious.

typical you the one that knows what it means lol

lilredturbo · March 19th, 2009, 10:33 PM

motor to motor honda will win.from a dig and 1/4 length.
Nitrous to motor idc cuz the v6 has to spary to beat a 4cylinder wheel chair.

95PGTTech · March 20th, 2009, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siknin

Ish the alternative to sayin sh*t and its been around for years.

13s, 10s, 11s, 20s who cares. And a h22 hatch is easily a 100mph+ trapping car on motor.

anyway lighten up it ain't that serious.

100+mph trap, isn't that a high 13 on street tires for a FWD car?

siknin · March 20th, 2009, 08:51 AM

100mph trap is probably gonna be a 13.6-13.9 second pass with a decent launch on street tires for fwd. Yea you right.

Add drag radials and it gets better.

since hondas are being spoke off and someone says they have a 10 or 11sec hatch. Here is a friend of mine with a fully built z6 (1.6liter single cam) hatch on 17psi. 1.8 -2.0 60fts

he dyno'd around 290 wheel 255tq and its a full interior ef hatch

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/t...-at_637687.htm

How much power does a honda need to run low 11s?

At the end of the day a 12 or 11sec honda is still fast tho. Just realize how much power it takes.

I would love to see a 10sec honda and extra props if its a single cam.

ForcedInduction · March 20th, 2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by siknin

100mph trap is probably gonna be a 13.6-13.9 second pass with a decent launch on street tires for fwd. Yea you right.

since hondas are being spoke off and someone says they have a 10 or 11sec hatch. Here is a friend of mine with a fully built z6 (1.6liter single cam) hatch on 17psi. 1.8 -2.0 60fts
he dyno'd around 290 wheel 255tq and its a full interior ef hatch
At the end of the day a 12 or 11sec honda is still fast tho. Just realize how much power it takes.

Yeh my friends stock srt4 went 13.8 @ 100.
I got a pretty much stock D16A6. On ten pounds I went 12.4 @ 113. I'm currently looking for slicks. Then im gonna up the boost to 16 pounds.

siknin · March 20th, 2009, 09:37 AM

yea my friends hatch is goin 11s his next trip at to the track. But anyway

Back to topic.

h22 hatch vs ze on and off spray is coming soon right?

Vapour Trails · March 20th, 2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 95PGTTech

yeah, like 13s. shit moves.
I am constantly amused by the perspective of this forum.
I guess I'm spoiled by hanging out in faster circles.

You and me both.

I've raced a swapped civic and a turbo integra at the track and mopped the floor with both of them in a basically stock Mustang. There was a gutted H22 hatch with a turbo that could not run faster than 12s. I guess everyone is faster on the internet.

95PGTTech · March 20th, 2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vapour Trails

You and me both.

I've raced a swapped civic and a turbo integra at the track and mopped the floor with both of them in a basically stock Mustang. There was a gutted H22 hatch with a turbo that could not run faster than 12s. I guess everyone is faster on the internet.

Yeah the civic looked fast compared to the probe and I give him his due even if it's not exactly my alley to be running a full on race loud four cylinder with no idle and no interior, I just thought some of the people were overreacting thinking a high 13 second car is "moving".

1990pgl · March 21st, 2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

Yeh my friends stock srt4 went 13.8 @ 100.
I got a pretty much stock D16A6. On ten pounds I went 12.4 @ 113. I'm currently looking for slicks. Then im gonna up the boost to 16 pounds.

ok a kid from class has a d16z6 vtec pushing 12psi and he cant break into the 12's

ForcedInduction · March 21st, 2009, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 1990pgl

ok a kid from class has a d16z6 vtec pushing 12psi and he cant break into the 12's

And your point?

You do know that the psi with different turbos will produce different numbers correct?
Example:
14B @ 16psi = 200whp
20g @ 14psi = 300whp

When you gonna race his H22

1990pgl · March 21st, 2009, 03:28 PM

hes running a t-60/56

KLuver · March 21st, 2009, 04:12 PM

damn i wanna run this guy(atx ZE), set it up for tomrrow night dan

95pse-n2o · March 21st, 2009, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siknin

How much power does a honda need to run low 11s?

At the end of the day a 12 or 11sec honda is still fast tho. Just realize how much power it takes.

I would love to see a 10sec honda and extra props if its a single cam.

People that know what they are doing don't need that much power.

There are 12 second all-motor Honda hatches running locally to me. ~200whp. Power isn't everything in drag racing, but few seem to realize that simple truth.

TRWeiss1 · March 21st, 2009, 07:09 PM

Well this thread is certainly interesting.

Just run the hatch Dan...We all want to see it.

Good luck!

jason_raaf · March 21st, 2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

H22 civics are fast as shit.
that dude you raced prolly didn't have a H22

h22's are also very heavy. an ef with an h22 is to hondas what that auto ze is to probes. you just dont do it.

EFin89 · March 23rd, 2009, 06:37 PM

Just ignore me. I was banned and couldn't conjure up the nerve to just apologize and come on back. I'd rather try to register under another name and pretend I am someone else. I will leave and go on to those "better forums" that I said I would leave this site for. I am not having any regrets. None. I mean it....none.

PSimon · April 10th, 2009, 04:01 PM

the guy in the video saying that civic is "sic" needs to watch me run my supercharged SVT, he would then tuck his tail between his legs and cry... man how I hate honda

March 19th, 2009, 07:54 PM	#26
1993fpgtatx PT Know it All Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,425 iTrader: (3)	well. since it is by SUCH high demand that I run the hatch...maybe I will. __________________ Black '93GTZEX Full ZE Swap with lots of goodies, a cutout, 'n Nitrous. http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g8...Picture004.jpg

March 19th, 2009, 07:55 PM	#27
1990pgl VPOC PRESIDENT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: virginia beach Age: 22 Posts: 2,783 iTrader: (4)	with spray and without spray want to see the outcome of both. it shoudl be mine __________________ why is it people ask for information then when given to them they are like wtf at the price of things. hp cost money. if you dont have the money to spend sell your car buy a huffy and a lawn mower and attach the motor to your bike. thats a really cheap 5hp upgrade right. also make sure its briggs and stratton 94 pgt-ze - stage 3 clutch, mx-3 flywheel, pnp heads and intake, cai, headers, 2.25 exhaust, no cat, custom flashed ecu, 10.5c/r, turbo very soon

March 19th, 2009, 09:59 PM	#32
1990pgl VPOC PRESIDENT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: virginia beach Age: 22 Posts: 2,783 iTrader: (4)	im 21 and watch mtv all the time wtf is the ish. must be a vh1 thing __________________ why is it people ask for information then when given to them they are like wtf at the price of things. hp cost money. if you dont have the money to spend sell your car buy a huffy and a lawn mower and attach the motor to your bike. thats a really cheap 5hp upgrade right. also make sure its briggs and stratton 94 pgt-ze - stage 3 clutch, mx-3 flywheel, pnp heads and intake, cai, headers, 2.25 exhaust, no cat, custom flashed ecu, 10.5c/r, turbo very soon

March 19th, 2009, 10:01 PM	#33
siknin Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virginia Age: 28 Posts: 1,775 iTrader: (0)	Ish the alternative to sayin sht and its been around for years. 13s, 10s, 11s, 20s who cares. And a h22 hatch is easily a 100mph+ trapping car on motor. anyway lighten up it ain't that serious. __________________ 94 probe ze turbo Last edited by siknin : March 19th, 2009 at 10:04 PM.*

March 19th, 2009, 10:33 PM	#35
lilredturbo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: waukesha,WI Age: 24 Posts: 2,162 iTrader: (0)	motor to motor honda will win.from a dig and 1/4 length. Nitrous to motor idc cuz the v6 has to spary to beat a 4cylinder wheel chair. __________________ .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ........................................

March 19th, 2009, 09:43 PM	#30
akmer Turbo Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Antonio, Texas Age: 24 Posts: 1,800 iTrader: (7)	^^^13's are decent for a 4 banger or so..its not like your mustang could hit that stock.. and i dont see whats so funny on the prespective we have on this forum, i been around fast circles and i mostly daily a 500whp car.... i still think racing any kind of form or fast/slow its still interesting and fun.. its only about fun to me, as soon as you keep thinking its for someother reason or start thinking your the ish, you lost prespective of what this hobby its to you IMO

March 19th, 2009, 09:55 PM	#31
95PGTTech Push The Limits Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Levittown, PA Age: 24 Posts: 6,956 iTrader: (40)	1. My car went 13s stock, with 114,000 miles on it, with my wife driving. And I have the timeslip to prove it. And other than the 94-95 Cobras, which are really nothing more than +10HP GT's, these are the slowest year Cobras ever produced. But this thread and my comment had absolutely nothing to do with my car, which is set up for street driving and open track opportunities, not drag racing. 2. 13s are decent for that car, and a vast improvement over what it was stock, the implication by the poster was that it was blazingly fast. When in reality, Honda Oddeseys these days come with 265HP - while 13s are decent for that car, 13s overall are not impressive. 3. When I say fast crowd, I'm talking 8.50 bracket index class, not 500whp. Like guys who don't race on the street. 4. What is "ish"? Is this the new high school word of the month? Did "P Diddy" or some other multi-millionaire 'hard-life' 'thug' create a new term on MTV this week?

March 20th, 2009, 08:51 AM	#37
siknin Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virginia Age: 28 Posts: 1,775 iTrader: (0)	100mph trap is probably gonna be a 13.6-13.9 second pass with a decent launch on street tires for fwd. Yea you right. Add drag radials and it gets better. since hondas are being spoke off and someone says they have a 10 or 11sec hatch. Here is a friend of mine with a fully built z6 (1.6liter single cam) hatch on 17psi. 1.8 -2.0 60fts he dyno'd around 290 wheel 255tq and its a full interior ef hatch http://videos.streetfire.net/video/t...-at_637687.htm How much power does a honda need to run low 11s? At the end of the day a 12 or 11sec honda is still fast tho. Just realize how much power it takes. I would love to see a 10sec honda and extra props if its a single cam. __________________ 94 probe ze turbo

March 20th, 2009, 09:37 AM	#39
siknin Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virginia Age: 28 Posts: 1,775 iTrader: (0)	yea my friends hatch is goin 11s his next trip at to the track. But anyway Back to topic. h22 hatch vs ze on and off spray is coming soon right? __________________ 94 probe ze turbo

March 21st, 2009, 03:28 PM	#44
1990pgl VPOC PRESIDENT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: virginia beach Age: 22 Posts: 2,783 iTrader: (4)	hes running a t-60/56 __________________ why is it people ask for information then when given to them they are like wtf at the price of things. hp cost money. if you dont have the money to spend sell your car buy a huffy and a lawn mower and attach the motor to your bike. thats a really cheap 5hp upgrade right. also make sure its briggs and stratton 94 pgt-ze - stage 3 clutch, mx-3 flywheel, pnp heads and intake, cai, headers, 2.25 exhaust, no cat, custom flashed ecu, 10.5c/r, turbo very soon

March 21st, 2009, 04:12 PM	#45
KLuver Donating User Join Date: Mar 2007 Age: 19 Posts: 4,843 iTrader: (9)	damn i wanna run this guy(atx ZE), set it up for tomrrow night dan

March 21st, 2009, 07:09 PM	#47
TRWeiss1 PT Demi God Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Squirting all over Binghamton, NY! Age: 27 Posts: 8,489 iTrader: (8)	Well this thread is certainly interesting. Just run the hatch Dan...We all want to see it. Good luck! __________________ 95 PGT MTX - Probezilla - Supercharged 'n Squirted ZE @ 8 psi 93 FD - 11.76 @ 125 (on street tires!) - Now single turbo - Garrett 500r 89 DTM PGT - Only 49K ORIGINAL miles! - MINT! Probezilla & The FD 475 RWHP/373 RWTQ @ 20 psi Get Well Joe!

March 23rd, 2009, 06:37 PM	#49
EFin89 Balls Across The Nose Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6 iTrader: (0)	Just ignore me. I was banned and couldn't conjure up the nerve to just apologize and come on back. I'd rather try to register under another name and pretend I am someone else. I will leave and go on to those "better forums" that I said I would leave this site for. I am not having any regrets. None. I mean it....none. Last edited by c-man : March 24th, 2009 at 02:11 AM.

April 10th, 2009, 04:01 PM	#50
PSimon Slow Learner Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Battle Ground, WA Posts: 27 iTrader: (0)	the guy in the video saying that civic is "sic" needs to watch me run my supercharged SVT, he would then tuck his tail between his legs and cry... man how I hate honda