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KES16 March 24th, 2010 05:16 PM

Lateral Link Measurement?
 
Wondering if anyone has lateral links they can measure kicking around? looking for the measurement from center hole to center hole of all 4 links. I'm looking to run aftermarket links made for a protege seeing if they will fit.

thanks for any help

Keith

Stevoh March 26th, 2010 06:55 PM

Nice. So am I. You looking at the Megan arms? I was actually going to measure the Protege arms off of my friends P5 but had no time. I will eventually and measure the stock Probes one if possible. The two front ones are bent, but the front and rears should be the same lenght anyways.

If you find any info let me know and I will let you know or post in this thread when I measure the arms out.

Also, it worse comes to worse you can pick up a new Protege subframe for around 80-09 bucks. I would assume the rear spindles would be cheap too if we need to run those to run Protege links. Check 1stautoparts too to price out the protege stuff.

KES16 March 26th, 2010 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stevoh (Post 1923803173)
Nice. So am I. You looking at the Megan arms? I was actually going to measure the Protege arms off of my friends P5 but had no time. I will eventually and measure the stock Probes one if possible. The two front ones are bent, but the front and rears should be the same lenght anyways.

If you find any info let me know and I will let you know or post in this thread when I measure the arms out.

Also, it worse comes to worse you can pick up a new Protege subframe for around 80-09 bucks. I would assume the rear spindles would be cheap too if we need to run those to run Protege links. Check 1stautoparts too to price out the protege stuff.

I am actually looking at the adjustable awr lateral links. My probe is in the paint shop so I cant even measure the stock ones. I may buy the links anyway and hope they fit once I get my car back.

If anyone can just run out and do a quick measurement under the car we can figure it out :)

thanks
Keith

Stevoh March 26th, 2010 07:59 PM

Cool. I would do it but my Probe has a bunch of crap behind it and I'm at work lol. You know the measurements already on the Protege links? Also I was thinking of getting the AWR units but the site says 400 per pair, so 800 total. The Megan bars are like 222 total or so. Cool man, keep me posted.

slinkyPgT March 27th, 2010 06:41 AM

they will work but they are not meant for the street.

KES16 March 27th, 2010 07:34 AM

The megan and awr also have them made with rubber bushings which will be fine for the street. The competition AWR use heim joints will be a harsher ride on the street for sure. Considering you can't replace just the bushing in the OEM bars this will be a great upgrade

P.S Seems the Protege bars will work no problem so once I get my car back I will install and post pics



Thanks
Keith

slinkyPgT March 27th, 2010 07:43 AM

dont get confused with trialing arms. awr has those. but only the heim joints for the lateral links

Stevoh March 27th, 2010 05:13 PM

Hell yea. Good to know. So are you getting the AWR links KES16? If so how much was the total? I thought AWR stopped making the heim joint links. I can't find them anymore on their site. If they sell the heimjoint links then you can possibly have heim joint trailing arms since they are just seem to be universal rods with adjustable heims at either end.

I would love to see pics when you get them on.

Also KES are you going to be running the Protege sway bar and rear suspension? I have a set of Protege coilovers on my car and plan on getting the AWR rear sway.

Also, my friend's P5 handles amazing and it's all stock so I think you will be pleased with the Protege design. After driving his car I want mine to be similar to his.

KES16 March 27th, 2010 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slinkyPgT (Post 1923803328)
dont get confused with trialing arms. awr has those. but only the heim joints for the lateral links

AWR Lateral links use bushings (check there site)

info :

Rear lateral link set. Fully adjustable to allow use of larger wheel and tire combo or add or decrease rear camber and toe settings. Will fit with no modification to existing rear subframe or suspension hub. Available in steel powder coated or brushed aluminum finish. Not recommended for street application. A great addition for autocrossing and drag car applications. Made of tubular steel utilizing delrin bushings on one end and urethane bushings on the other instead of the stock rubber. This unique approach controls the different forces at work, on each end of the arm. Provides much better control and stability. Will fit all 99-2003 Prot�g�s and may fit 95-98. Priced per pair.

I am actually picking up used lateral links so I will post my results

Thanks
Keith

slinkyPgT March 28th, 2010 06:15 AM

ill find you a pic of the ones i seen
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...Lkit5Mar04.jpg
awr arms! no bushing there

KES16 March 28th, 2010 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slinkyPgT (Post 1923803667)
ill find you a pic of the ones i seen
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...Lkit5Mar04.jpg
awr arms! no bushing there



They make both sets man. Heim joints or bushings. I will post pictures off the ones with bushings later

Hardrace also makes lateral links using bushings for the protege

slinkyPgT March 28th, 2010 07:12 AM

ok cool. im looking to replace soon

UnorthodoxCreat March 28th, 2010 08:24 AM

These ones from Megan Racing really appeal to me if they will indeed fit. http://www.meganracing.com/uploadIma...ar/RFL-323.jpg I don't care about the adjustability, I just want an affordable way to replace my old, beat bushings.

Stevoh March 28th, 2010 12:54 PM

Woah Hardrace also makes roll center adjusters. The Protege front arms are a little different but I think the balljoints should be interchangeable. Nice. The Hardrace ones look like they are the Megan arms, but they offer them in heim joints too.

slinkyPgT March 28th, 2010 01:27 PM

good info now knowing we can use protege' rear arms on pgt's

do we have a definite spread of what years the protege' parts will work?

Black hawk March 29th, 2010 03:11 AM

Do the Protege trailing arms fit as well ?, Can anyone definetly confirm that the Protage Lateral rear arms fit? I can get a really good deal on the full set from Europe just need to know it will all fit.

KES16 March 29th, 2010 06:30 AM

Protege Trailing arms do fit 99-2003, the lateral Links I can not say 100% but I will know by end of may when I get my car back.

I own 2 protege5's so I haev the Measurement from the protege links but not the probes. I am 95% sure they are going to fit with zero issues (other then swaybar bracket)


I will update the thread when I actually Install these

Thanks
Keith

JKpgt96 March 29th, 2010 10:32 AM

I am using the setup off the Jensen Probe, with heim joints on both the tubular lateral bars and rear control arms that I have..the ride is harsh, but it doesn't bother me. However, I have to have mounts made for the AWR sway bar I have sitting in the garage..

I love being able to simply get under the car with a wrench and adjust the camber/toe in the rear in about 5 minutes, lol. Perhaps I can look at these parts for an idea on how to mount my sway bar...hmm...

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slinkyPgT (Post 1923803667)
ill find you a pic of the ones i seen
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...Lkit5Mar04.jpg
awr arms! no bushing there

This is exactly what mine look like.

reuben_johnston March 30th, 2010 04:36 AM

before i picked up the protege 21mm awr swaybar, i was thinking of using this clamp with the 19mm awr probe swaybar: http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...E46M3FR_fs.jpg

but, now i have ksports which have the tabs for mounting the protege 21mm awr swaybar. one of these days i will have time to go install everything and post pictures :(, stupid work and school.

rj

JKpgt96 March 30th, 2010 06:41 AM

Yeah...that is the thing..my suspension is changing to coilovers, so I have thought about just not messing with it. Are you using the Probe/Mx6 coilovers?

reuben_johnston March 31st, 2010 04:45 AM

yea, i have mx-6 ksports

JKpgt96 March 31st, 2010 06:32 AM

And the rear sway bar is for a what year protege? And you said the sway bar will mount right up to the coilovers, no problem, correct?

reuben_johnston April 1st, 2010 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JKpgt96 (Post 1923805586)
And the rear sway bar is for a what year protege? And you said the sway bar will mount right up to the coilovers, no problem, correct?

i have not test fit this setup, repeat, i have not test fit this setup. :darin:

i do believe it will all work. i bought the 21mm awr swaybar w/endlinks used and i think it is for the last generation protege.

my mx6 ksports do have mounting tabs for the swaybar.

i bought my awr lateral links used, but think they're for the last generation protege as well.

rj

EloM May 15th, 2010 07:26 PM

I've read through this thread & it seems to have gone dead.
Can anyone update the status of the info that was being asked here? Whether we can use Protege lateral links instead.
I am in the market for replacing my lateral link bushings so I can get my alignment done, as my rear end is ever slighty out that it's not ruining my tires & don't want to buy the new arms from Mazda @ $82ea.
Also, if so & I went with the protege trailing arms, what difference would I see in the ride & cornering? Better or worse? I have the AWR 19mm rear sway bar & stock 225 tires.

reuben_johnston May 16th, 2010 05:01 AM

no updates from me. still no time to work on this for fitment check. the only item i have confirmed is the 21mm protege swaybar may require some welding (the small tabs on the swaybar's inner side of the mounts) to match the mount locations bracing on the probe/mx6.

rj


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