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  • IM gaskets with phenolic spacers?

    So I'm finally to the point where I actually had some time to tear things down... The phenolic spacers on my 95 PGT were lined on either side with some kind of paper gasket to hold a seal, although once the IM was removed the paper gave up the ghost.

    What kind of options do I have left? Go back to metal gaskets and ditch the phenolic spacers for the IM? Just use a thin bead of RTV copper to create the gasket? Or can I just buy two sets of standard gaskets and use them instead?
    Jin "Time Traveler" Kim
    chrono@chrono.org
    http://www.chrono.org
    '95 PGT own
    '06 Mazdaspeed 6
    '13 Evolution GSR
    '90/'91 PGT owned

  • #2
    you can use RTV or 2 sets of metal or 2 sets of cork/paper...you can even get gasket material and cut your own gaskets.
    '94 teal w/black int. some sort of sts, 65mm DE TB full KL31 ZE, CAI, Phenolyc spacers, mx3 flywheel, pacesetter headers, 2.5" exhaust, stainless brake lines, MS and LC-1. Charter member Club 15.2 - Mustang Dyno - 187/169 @the wheels
    '90 White GT "Pearl"....uh ohzzzz...I had turboz. Now with T3....now it's J-doggs
    '96 SE & '93 "Red-Eye" smashed and trashed. 97 GTS....crashed, not trashed yet

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    • #3
      Is it not advisable to just use the phenolics with the metal gaskets alone?

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      • #4
        I was kind of under the impression that two sets of metal gaskets might be a bit too much. I think I'll just try the RTV only approach but using a very thin layer. I wasn't happy that the paper gaskets that came with the phenolic spacers to begin with appeared to have deteriorated quite a bit. It's possible that the act of removing them caused them to fall apart, but they felt pretty brittle and deteriorated easily from handling.
        Jin "Time Traveler" Kim
        chrono@chrono.org
        http://www.chrono.org
        '95 PGT own
        '06 Mazdaspeed 6
        '13 Evolution GSR
        '90/'91 PGT owned

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        • #5
          I use the liquid gasket stuff. Same thing happened to me. Gasket both sides.
          2000 ZX2 w/ '95 Millenia KL swap, MSPNP (VAF delete, IAT mod, AEM Wideband, Coilpack), MFactory LSD w/ 3-4-5 gearset and 'Plate Mod' 626 trans, Aeromotive fuel system, custom DSS 500hp axles, AWR solid trans mounts, KLG4 IM, MX3 GS brake booster/master combo, GT35 turbo w/ custom 3" downpipe, Ford Racing ZX2 inverted coilovers, Cusco camber plates all around w/ Cusco strut tower bar, custom made traction bars to frame rails, and lots more.

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          • #6
            Copper spray gasket, on both sides worked for me. That stuff is just the best.
            Probe out for Harambe
            94 PGT KLZE http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/a...psr6dk8q1m.jpg
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aauXMeITcdM

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            • #7
              2 sets of the metal gaskets are just fine its not too much and not too little
              95 PGT Current project
              95 PSE swapped in 93 KL...Headers.... K&N cold Air.... Gutted Caged and ready for Dirt
              01 Seabring Convert 01 Neon Rims With Spacers..
              99 Olds Cutlas DD

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              • #8
                Originally posted by fordprobegt67 View Post
                2 sets of the metal gaskets are just fine its not too much and not too little
                Two sets of metal gaskets have worked for me so far, was just curious if they'd not work with the phenolics in the long run.

                The only thing I'd thought might be an issue going that route was whether the stock intake manifold mounting bolts would be long enough, but they've held so far too.

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                • #9
                  ZE or 95 Millenia gaskets are $40 a set at my local parts store. So that's $80 right there, DE are half price. Let's say you have to take the IM off for some reason. I've had the same can of copper spray for a year and a half now at least. Made an EGR block off plate out of some aluminum, sprayed both sides bolted it up. My 4 cents.
                  Probe out for Harambe
                  94 PGT KLZE http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/a...psr6dk8q1m.jpg
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aauXMeITcdM

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