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  • #31
    Clutch master is relatively easy and I believe $40 at the parts store. If it solves your problem then you can drive it again. I've had 2 slaves and a master go in 35k miles, never had the clutch or bearings fail. Okay if it is the bearings... why would pumping the pedal bring the pedal back up to height. Whereas an internally leaking master the fluid would return to the correct side of the plunger. $40 dollars and 20-30 minutes, OR major disassembly and a lot more down time for even more weeks waiting on much more expensive parts. All to find out you needed a clutch master in the first place. not arguing just giving my rationale.
    Probe out for Harambe
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aauXMeITcdM

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    • #32
      Thanks for the video, but I think it doesn't quite tell me why I cannot shift into the gear then the engine is running an can when it's not.

      BLUEnoEQ
      I agree that this is something I should try and I will, I just wanna learn more in parallel to getting myself replace the master.

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      • #33
        Throw out bearing is sheared or something. My 94 did something similar when I forgot to put the throwout bearing back in after a clutch job. You cant change gears because the clutch can't move far enough to disengage from the flywheel because there's play between the bearing and clutch, bet if you pull all that shit out do the clutch and the bearing you'll be kosher.

        Do the main seal if you haven't get and don't forget to put that throwout bearing back in I found out the hard way lol.
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        • #34
          OK, I started looking at the master cylinder and now I am confused.

          I though master cylinder was the reservoir and the "cylinder" it is mounted on where I put brake fluid:

          http://www.rockauto.com/info/738/738...07_1__ra_p.jpg

          But I also find a part called clutch master cylinder :

          http://www.rockauto.com/info/32/39937__ra_p.jpg

          Do I even have this second part, where is it? and When you advice to replace which one do you advice to replace?

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          • #35
            Look for the rubber hose, coming off the brake master, and follow that off the driver's side to the clutch master, much smaller, no reservoir on top if it. second picture is correct
            Probe out for Harambe
            94 PGT KLZE http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/a...psr6dk8q1m.jpg
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aauXMeITcdM

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            • #36
              Thanks. Now that I have embarrassed myself by publicly admitting that I though brake and clutch mater cylinders are same, the clutch master cylinder being the potential culprit for my problem seems more possible. Now I understand why someone suggested that the oil stain on my carper is probably leaky clutch master cylinder. This is what I will do most probably tomorrow. Autozone seems to have it in stock.

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              • #37
                Ha ha, I kept making sure not to just say master cylinder for that reason. It's okay though pretty much everyone on here has had moments like that. If they haven't they're new.
                Probe out for Harambe
                94 PGT KLZE http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/a...psr6dk8q1m.jpg
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aauXMeITcdM

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                • #38
                  I watched that nut removal video like 100 times, hung upside down under the dash under steering wheel until deesy and still cannot find the clutch master cylinder inside nut. Can anybody help me locate it. What is it next too. Pictures would help too. Thanks.

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                  • #39
                    Did you read my description above? There's a white blockey plastic thing blocking the view of the Bolt that goes through the firewall. You're not looking for a nut... nut is on the outside under the hood, it's a bolt on the inside. The plastic thing has 2 gold nuts holding it on, remove those and slide the block. You should be able to see the head of the bolt then.
                    Probe out for Harambe
                    94 PGT KLZE http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/a...psr6dk8q1m.jpg
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aauXMeITcdM

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                    • #40
                      Thanks a lot for all the hints... I went in again with more confidence and actually squeezed in a 12 inch wrench lug on about a foot long extension and poked for the nut head. When I felt like I grabbed something I started loosening and that was it... reversed the procedure for putting it back... poked for extruding bolt and started tightning...


                      I will bleed it tomorrow and hope for the best... Will update you later.

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                      • #41
                        Make sure brake master reservoir is topped up, open bleeder screw, (on slave,) flop pedal with your hand many times close bleeder screw. Works for me. You might want to check on the other fluids too. The suspense is killing me
                        Probe out for Harambe
                        94 PGT KLZE http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/a...psr6dk8q1m.jpg
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aauXMeITcdM

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                        • #42
                          OK. I bled the system... but I am sorry, I will have to keep you waiting for the ultimate answer... because my battery is dead (dies easily, I need a new one) so I will only start engine tomorrow...

                          I am keeping my fingers crossed...

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                          • #43
                            Ha! I guess I'll have to wait some more.
                            Probe out for Harambe
                            94 PGT KLZE http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/a...psr6dk8q1m.jpg
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aauXMeITcdM

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                            • #44
                              well. bad news... still cannot switch to the gear... I will make a video of slave cylinder pushing the clutch lever for you too see if it goes far enough...

                              I mean, when problem first happened, I was able to drive the car home, and it was letting me switch the gears... what happened during me replacing the cylinders? Did I still have to bleed it more?

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                              • #45
                                Definitely bleed it again, just to be 100% sure. If that doesn't do it then it's the throwout bearing or something else in the bellhousing. Don't get discouraged though if it is. There's plenty of info on here on how to do just about anything.
                                Probe out for Harambe
                                94 PGT KLZE http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/a...psr6dk8q1m.jpg
                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aauXMeITcdM

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