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Old July 29th, 2006, 12:45 PM   #1
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More track days upcoming!

In case any of you feel the need for speed, just thought I'd let you know about more of the upcoming track weekends next month. All info and sign up stuff can be found on the group's website:

www.team-racing.org

Aug 12-13 Streets of Willow Springs
This event JUST got added, but it's an inexpensive (relatively speaking), highly technical track that I'm looking forward to driving for the 1st time myself!

Aug 26-27 Reno-Fernley Raceway
This track is the hidden gem of the western U.S. in my opinion, with over 4 MILES of highly technical turns and my personal favorite turn of any track, "the toilet bowl"!
Come for the weekend, and live it up in Reno while you're there as well.

September 1 Thunderhill
Wonderful track just an hour north of Sacramento.
Maybe Gavin will chip in some more info. on his experience here.

Hope to see some of you guys and these events! I was riding through Napa yesterday when an electric red 96 PGT pulled up. I forget sometimes how pretty these cars are now.
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Old July 29th, 2006, 10:42 PM   #2
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http://www.mx6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164590

I did indeed give my impressions of the time I had.

These events will be too close to when Ill be gone for my vacation, but maybe someone else will take a stab at it. T.E.A.M was a very nice group to get some quality laps in with.

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Old August 2nd, 2006, 02:03 PM   #3
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TEAM sounds like a good way to go, maybe I should try one of the events. I worry a lot about breaking the car, how plausible is it to just drive in, race, and drive out?
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Old August 2nd, 2006, 04:51 PM   #4
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how much will these events cost?
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Old August 3rd, 2006, 11:09 AM   #5
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wow, i didnt know a car could have that much body roll!

glad you had fun!

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Old August 3rd, 2006, 11:36 AM   #6
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Theres "body roll" and theres "body roll". Although most folks seem to have this unnatural aversion to it, it was probably helpful in this case. In the car, things werent that dramatic. The Audi A80 that was there pulling up its inside tires on a variety of corners...well, thats another story.

Codon...check the link I posted above your post. Driving in and out is perfectly feasable.

proboner....check Jims link.

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Old August 3rd, 2006, 01:37 PM   #7
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Well, you even said in your thread that don't bring it if you can't afford to leave it. I will probably be down for this in the probe after I get the ze and all the suspension work done. I know it so well after 30,000 miles of aggressive driving and autocrossing it and crashing it that I would have no worries. Even if it did crash, I could just get another one .

I think I need to learn more before I take the vette out, even though road courses are it's forte.
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Old August 3rd, 2006, 02:11 PM   #8
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you are partly right- the body roll itself has a small effect because of the distance the center of gravity must move between right and left turns.

but where it really hurts is by pulling the contact patch of the tire off the road by creating positive camber on the outside wheels. a strut suspension with little camber gain under compression is even worse off.

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Old August 3rd, 2006, 02:47 PM   #9
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Codon...that was said in reference to the fact that many times people get ahead of themselves on a track and they do something beyond their/the cars ability and wind up eating rocks. I took what you said, driving in and out, to mean the cars reliability.

In either case, theres easy fixes. (A) dont drive like a bonehead. Its suposed to be a learning experience/fun, not a race to see who crashes first (B) Fix the car so it doesnt leak all over the place, have one engine mount, 4 mismatched tires and 3 lug studs on 2 corners.

cake.

James...you are right things could be more optimized(hell, I chose to run with that setup), but I wasnt there to set the world alight. Body roll or not, contact patches...or not, it was a lot of fun.

EDIT: oh, you know what...enough of being gracious. 1st gen MX6 with GS autocross setup on 205/60/15 320treadwear KH-11s. 6 sessions 16 pointbys for me alltogether(only on the front and backstraight). Amount of times I pointed someone else by.....0. Yeah, I had a good time

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Old August 3rd, 2006, 03:23 PM   #10
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i could tell you were going fast from the pics

gavin, stop listening to reason, give in to the dark side... must fix car to go faster... faster... must change all suspension components... keep the hammer down in T8...

not bad for a $500 car!

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Old August 3rd, 2006, 03:37 PM   #11
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NeVAR!!!!111ONEONE!!! Youll never convert me to the dark side. My will is strong. I will resi.....ooo camber plates, shiny.

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Old August 19th, 2006, 10:10 AM   #12
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LOL! -that's why I think a lap timing system was one of the best things I ever got. When you think about it, it saves money when a track day spent working on techniques makes you 2 seconds faster (or more, at least early on) and twice that money in car mods makes you 1 second faster, if that.

C'mon guys, spend a little money on the "more-skilled driver" mod!
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Old August 19th, 2006, 11:08 AM   #13
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Gavin, just got around to reading the MX6.com thread - you should be writing for publication, not just forum threads. And great photos!
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Old August 19th, 2006, 02:48 PM   #14
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Damn, still wish I could go. I just may have to go next year. Have to get me a DD first. Someone who has a Probe/MX6 go man!!!
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