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Old May 28th, 2012, 09:26 PM   #1
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Ford Probe GT 2.5L KLDE Turbo

I am doing this from my phone tonight so I will keep this short until I can clean it upwith tomorrow. I will post my progression pictures as I have three weeks to paint this car, install the turbo/ms/everything else. So feel free to stay tuned!

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Old May 29th, 2012, 12:32 AM   #2
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From the looks of everything you are upgrading the internals to k1 rods and what kind of piston? Also i see some stock nissan injectors are ya looking at shaving them to 550s? Hope the project goes well for ya and think about ms but im sure you knkow already.
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Old May 29th, 2012, 01:21 AM   #3
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Those pistons look scary, custom CP pistons? I can see low compression but they are not Vitaras.'
Is that Dans turbo?
What type of piston rings did you choose exactly?
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Old May 29th, 2012, 01:11 PM   #4
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These are RX-7 secondary injectors (red top 850cc)

Mac1 - The rings are nitrated steel, its what comes with CP brand pistons. Yes this is Dan's turbo. I also have the manifolds and WG. I have a little modifying to do, but nothing too major.

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Forgot to mention! I have ms3 with the expansion board along with all of my gauges and wideband too of course.
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Old May 29th, 2012, 09:49 PM   #5
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So what is the static compression?
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Old May 29th, 2012, 11:00 PM   #6
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I can let you know tomorrow, I will have to get the CCs of the dish on these pistons since I cant measure them now. My machinist will know. My paperwork is in my office so I can't grab it and look, I will get back to you asap. I have all the other specs but those lol
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Old May 30th, 2012, 12:42 PM   #7
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I have all the other specs but those lol
Then post up the dish (c.c.) and the (c.h.) compression height to figure it out. It looks like 8:1.
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Old May 30th, 2012, 02:00 PM   #8
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Got it today pistons are 8.6:1 (I knew they were close to 8.5:1). I can get you the specs from the entire build if you'd like.
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Old May 30th, 2012, 03:06 PM   #9
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yeah i'm curious how these shops calculate it. I'm sure it's pretty accurate but if you post the things I asked for then we can confirm.
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Old May 30th, 2012, 08:41 PM   #10
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I'm waiting for the shop to get back to me on the exact CC of the dish on these pistons. I'll probably just call CP tomorrow and ask them. That's the only number I didn't have was the CC of the dish. I'll let you know.

Update on the car. I've got the entire front of the car completely stripped to nothing. I'm going to run a few pieces through my sand blaster that I have and fix a small hole from the battery acid that leaked on it. I'm hoping that by Wednesday I can have the car painted and by Sunday of the following week I can have the MS installed and such.

However, my BoV is on back order x.X So absolutely no clue how long that's going to take. I hope it doesn't hold up this whole project!

More pictures coming soon.

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Additionally, I just noticed now that I am on an actual PC that this is in the wrong forum section. So if any of the mods catch this, feel free to move it to the probe related section! Thanks!
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Old May 31st, 2012, 07:52 PM   #11
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Checked the math with CP, machinist, and myself. Its 8.35:1 after everything. I'll post it up after I get my paper.

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Old June 1st, 2012, 12:15 AM   #12
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Mac1 here are the final numbers. Check and see what you come up with.

Bore - 3.347
Stroke - 2.921
Combustion Chamber Volume - 39cc
Head Gasket Thickness - .016in
Head Gasket Bore - 3.375in
Deck Height - .013
Top Piston Volme - 14.1cc (dished of course)

I've done the math on paper and used calculators, I'm getting 8.35:1 but let me know.
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Old June 1st, 2012, 12:53 AM   #13
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yeah your calculations are correct but why the 3.347" bore? Stock unmolested cylinder bore is 3.33". Maybe they want you to bore the block to that spec.
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Old June 1st, 2012, 11:12 AM   #14
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Got a ton of new pictures to put up today then I have to finish some mods and bead blasting today too.
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Old June 1st, 2012, 09:07 PM   #15
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Got both done and a ton of other parts but forgot to grab more pictures. Doing control arms Sunday.



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Dont mind the little spot of red I missed, I caught it after the picture

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Old June 2nd, 2012, 08:38 AM   #16
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Mac1 here are the final numbers. Check and see what you come up with.

Bore - 3.347
Stroke - 2.921
Combustion Chamber Volume - 39cc
Head Gasket Thickness - .016in
Head Gasket Bore - 3.375in
Deck Height - .013
Top Piston Volme - 14.1cc (dished of course)

I've done the math on paper and used calculators, I'm getting 8.35:1 but let me know.
Why so low? Something in the 10-11:1 range would be better off.
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 09:09 AM   #17
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im curious too. why so low on the compression?
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 10:06 AM   #18
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Simple. Money and time. Either wait 8 weeks and pay more money OR use these ones that someone wanted that were just made and canceled their order. This low of compression isnt going to be killer considering I'm going to around 20-25 pounds. Im waiting for a car to sell off my car lot so I can get my PAR tranny built.
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 01:34 PM   #19
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^^ yup Lower compression = more boost friendly I guess you could say trade-offs.
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 02:43 PM   #20
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at 7.7:1 c/r and 18psi on a base tune on pump gas with a race weight of 2500lbs I was easily in the mid low 13's. Gonna be doing it again in couple weeks with up to day tune and aiming for 11's.
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 03:10 PM   #21
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We're doing the same thing, kinda. Lol I just need a damn car to sell so I can get my new tranny.
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 03:35 PM   #22
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well you got a bigger turbo and building a PAR trans so it's gonna be ungodly. If you cant afford the tranny soon enough just make your car super light.
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 04:41 PM   #23
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I was honestly thinking that myself. I should take a picture of my shelf with 5 transmissions for this car. I've got a local JY that just delivers whole Probes to me. Its kinda nice lol I just pay the scrap price
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Old June 5th, 2012, 11:38 PM   #24
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Got some more updates and pictures!

Start of some sand blasting

About halfway

Battery rust I have to fix tomorrow

Rack and pinion out


I forgot to take pictures after getting both harnesses from out, clutch master cylinder, and brake booster. Now that the engine bay is fully striped I'm going to some more blasting then get it prepped for paint. Lots of other little odds and ends to do.

Quick question. What is the small black box (1"x2"x2") that plugs in above the factory ECU? Wasnt sure.

My paint is mixed and ready, its going to be shadow gunmetal gray. Then all of my others things will either be a medium gray or jet black. Let me know what you think!

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Old June 6th, 2012, 07:35 PM   #25
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Got a little more done today in between all of the customer work that came in.

Dash/wiring harness out

Rest of the bay striped

Harness(this is a huge PITA to pull out lol)


Got all of my paint BC/CC today and got the jams prepped just have to do the engine bay in the AM. Painted pictures should be here tomorrow!

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