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Old May 20th, 2014, 04:38 AM   #1
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1989 Probe GT barn find rebuild

So as some of you guys probably know, I recently bought an 89gt to replace my rusted out LX. Car is an original 1 owner car, 149k, never modded, no rust, been in a barn for the past 10 years. I purchased it from the owner down in tennessee and had it shipped 1300 miles up to me in MA, Plan is a complete rehab and to swap in all the performance and custom parts from my lx as well as some other fun stuff. Anyways i know you guys like picks:

Here's how it looked when it was dragged out for the first time.





Car was fairly dirty to say the least, had ben sitting with its window down for so long, there was quite a bit of grime. So i spent this past weekend scrubbing down the interior, took everything out, vacuumed, scrubbed and cleaned almost every inch. The carpet may be replaced as it is pretty grimy I did my best to scrub it down. Found a few mouse nests, and a big ass spider that got away from me….in side the door:unbel: hope he finds his way out lol.



Does anyone know a paint or dye thats close to the 89 smoke grey? Also i had the all elusive unbroken center vent door, until today. Somewhere between when i parked it last week and when i came back it this morning…the vent door decided it was time to crack :angry:

Doesn't really bother my as i was going to mold a gauge pod into it anyways but it would have been nice to save it. I got my seats in the car just to get them out of the shop so they don't get damaged. Also mounted my hatch floor in, still need to finished up a panel behind the seats and cover all the panels.







Paint is ok, reallllly faded and oxidized on top, going to try to clay bar and buff it out with a foam pad and see where it stands. If it won't come back I'll either leave it this year…or plastidip it matte red. Once the lx is out of the garage and on the trailer, I can get it in the shop and i'll start to go through the mechanics. So far i have a bunch of parts to replace just for a refresh: timing belt, water pump, fuel filter, disty cap, rotor, plugs, wires, belts, heater hoses, radiator hoses and a valve cover gasket to start. Brakes don't work and clutch pedal is to the floor so I'm assuming master and slave are next on the list. Im a newb to this f2t so This will all be an learning experience but i'm ready to make some power! I'll get this thread updated with progress as it comes.


Got my wheels on cause I'm impatient, kinda up in the air with the color combo but i'll try it out for now. Hopefully the lx roller will be out of the garage this week and i can get the 89 in to start mechanical work. Car hasn't been run in years so it will be getting a full rehab and break in. Also got my camber plates in today finally so i can add those to my tein coils and get the fenders rolled and give the car a proper stance.







I'll keep the progress coming as i go through it!

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Old May 20th, 2014, 07:23 AM   #2
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A Probe barn find?! That is a win.

This will be a sweet build, loved your old car.. cant wait to see where this one goes. In the end maybe it has all turned out for the better now that you got a one owner GT out of the deal. Did you have spacers on the other car, I thought the wheels were more flush than they look in the rear of the that picture.

Hows the engine bay look? Any sign of mice damage to the harness or anything?
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Old May 20th, 2014, 07:56 AM   #4
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A Probe barn find?! That is a win.

This will be a sweet build, loved your old car.. cant wait to see where this one goes. In the end maybe it has all turned out for the better now that you got a one owner GT out of the deal. Did you have spacers on the other car, I thought the wheels were more flush than they look in the rear of the that picture.

Hows the engine bay look? Any sign of mice damage to the harness or anything?

I checked over the interior pretty thoroughly and could find anything obvious, looked like they just grabbed insulation. Theres also a shitload of cat hair in the car so i assume a barn car decided to oust any mice population so theres a plus. The bay is fairly dirty, going to degrease and pressure wash it before i start any rehab there. I'm pretty happy with the purchase i think this car will lead me toward what my end goal is. Rear fitment on the other car was positive camber cause of the 2g suspension so it may have looked more flush, however, i will have to run 5-10mm spacers to fit the wheels with the awr trailing arms so it will fit a tad better.

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Old May 20th, 2014, 08:51 AM   #5
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Hands down you had the best looking 1st gen I've ever seen. So I can't wait to see the route you go with this one. You make me so jealous of not having one sometimes that I hate seeing your threads updated. Lol
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Well thats good, you're car had a four-legged security system while it sat for years int he barn lol.
Theres a local black 89GT up for sale, 160km on it, apparently runs and drives but has a oil leak (VC gasket) and exhaust leak (manifold gasket) which he is giving with the car. He's asking $1000 for it, I think I may go look at it tomorrow.. Looks too good to be true. You're pretty well versed in these cars, any specific things I should look for on the first gen? You can PM me if you want instead of me cluttering up your thread.
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which tein coilovers are you using?

the 2g ss-p's will work with the 1g, however you can swap out the front camber plates with FC plates that are also sold by tein. to fit the struts to the 1g, you'll need to remove some material from the mounting points on the spindles.

i do like the custom plates made for the rear. which adjusting hardware are you using in there? racy-stacey did something just like this with her setup. she wound up using my old cusco hardware after she had her rear base plate made.

nice find. don't see too many first gens in such good shape.
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Hands down you had the best looking 1st gen I've ever seen. So I can't wait to see the route you go with this one. You make me so jealous of not having one sometimes that I hate seeing your threads updated. Lol
Thanks! the kind words mean a lot, hopefully making some good progress soon



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Well thats good, you're car had a four-legged security system while it sat for years int he barn lol.
Theres a local black 89GT up for sale, 160km on it, apparently runs and drives but has a oil leak (VC gasket) and exhaust leak (manifold gasket) which he is giving with the car. He's asking $1000 for it, I think I may go look at it tomorrow.. Looks too good to be true. You're pretty well versed in these cars, any specific things I should look for on the first gen? You can PM me if you want instead of me cluttering up your thread.
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which tein coilovers are you using?

the 2g ss-p's will work with the 1g, however you can swap out the front camber plates with FC plates that are also sold by tein. to fit the struts to the 1g, you'll need to remove some material from the mounting points on the spindles.

i do like the custom plates made for the rear. which adjusting hardware are you using in there? racy-stacey did something just like this with her setup. she wound up using my old cusco hardware after she had her rear base plate made.

nice find. don't see too many first gens in such good shape.
Thanks! Last year i picked up the last set of basics that tein was liquidating on ebay. They are 2g struts, the rears have already been modified to fit over the 1g spindles. I picked up these camber plates on ebay, just generics, they do feel nicer than the ksport plates i had purchased in the past. The s13 fronts match up with 1g probe rear strut mount, pat had that tip I would have bought teins or cusco but for the price and my purpose,these made sense to me.
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Old May 20th, 2014, 10:40 AM   #9
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that dashboard is mint !! here is cali most of them are cracked sooo bad.

Good Luck with this car !!
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HEY ! Car looks great. What color is it exactly? I'm having trouble telling from the pics (my eyes) . Hope you find and execute the spider (hate them) but even the interior looks pretty nice. The only other 1st gen Probe I ever saw that looked as nice as this one was your red one and the one James owns over on PT
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Old May 20th, 2014, 03:36 PM   #11
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How's it run?

Do a couple pull vids before you start modding it!

Congrats on the 1st gen find. I have wet dreams of finding a MINT first gen.
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That stock carpet alone is insanely spotless. Ive never had a probe that came with carpet that nice. If thats just a little indication of the rest of the car, Well done! I kinda dig the gold wheels on it also. Planning on keeping the 89gt kit, or swapping it over to the 90gt+ and your lx with lip front?
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HEY ! Car looks great. What color is it exactly? I'm having trouble telling from the pics (my eyes) . Hope you find and execute the spider (hate them) but even the interior looks pretty nice. The only other 1st gen Probe I ever saw that looked as nice as this one was your red one and the one James owns over on PT
James's LX is OCD clean... Loghead's on PP is super clean as well. This one is clean from what I can tell. I hope it runs as well as it looks. I think the color is light sandalwood based on the pics. I could be wrong.
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yup yup the car is sandalwood.


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That stock carpet alone is insanely spotless. Ive never had a probe that came with carpet that nice. If thats just a little indication of the rest of the car, Well done! I kinda dig the gold wheels on it also. Planning on keeping the 89gt kit, or swapping it over to the 90gt+ and your lx with lip front?
The carpet really isn't that spotless haha trust me, but i did spend about 2 hours scrubbing the hell out of it. Im planning on just installing the xenon front bumper with the 89 skirts and rear and trying out the erebuni wing. I'll have to mock it all up and see how it works. Really don't know how much enthusiasm i have to fit all the body panels up to the car this year if i was to ditch the 89 kit all together. If the xenon looks odd up front i'll just put a honda abs lip under it for now or something and just leave the rest. Going to see how much of the factory paint i can save, some things i've ben reading lead me to believe i can still restore it so i'll be attempting that first.
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Yeah, I would agree. There is another member on PP also called cshoen, or something like that that also has a beautiful one as well
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rockauto is going to be your friend for the engine parts....check out the clearance parts. Sorry, I took the last gatorback alternator belt, but they do have some others on clearance for cheap. Also, PCV valve, fuel filter, and vacuum hose (they have some of that pretty cheap too).
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Yeah Carlin's car on PP is clean as hell.. How could I forget..

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EveryDetails 1st gen is a piece of art! The body work alone no one has done anything even comparable in my eye's. But last i knew it still didnt have a motor in it yet.
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rockauto is going to be your friend for the engine parts....check out the clearance parts. Sorry, I took the last gatorback alternator belt, but they do have some others on clearance for cheap. Also, PCV valve, fuel filter, and vacuum hose (they have some of that pretty cheap too).
Yep I've already got several filled boxes of parts from rock auto sitting in the garage

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Carlins car is so clean, he had similar luck i believe that was a junkyard car that was in great shape and complete. Everydetails car is just insane, he has a motor i believe and a complete set of polished ss hot pipes he made recently
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How much was the car?

And how much to ship across the states, if you don't mind me askin'
(Just as a reference for all the 'I would buy your car if I was closer' people in the Probe for sale thread)
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The car itself was $450. So it was really a good deal. Not currently running but it should with some maintenance.


The shipping was such a pain in the ass.


So I went into this never having shipped a vehicle. What I quickly searched before approaching this endeavor had led me to believe it was no big deal...Not so much the case in my situation. I was shipping a inoperable car, on a not so popular/well traveled route, the route detail was not mentioned to me until the 5th booked shipping broker 3.5 weeks after beginning my attempt to ship and after several angry phone calls.

Auto shipping is not the customers market.

I started with those get 10 free quotes bs. Was quoted starting at 600 for a 1300 mile ship for an inoperable car. All these quotes are from brokers, not direct trucking companies, no matter how much they claim to have their own trucks. I made some phone calls, checked out some reviews (most of them sucked). Prices started climbing.

So you have to figure, broker fee is lets say $150 out of a $600 quote. thats a $450 ship job to the trucker. $450/1300 is around 35 cents a mile....no trucker will go out of their way to pick that up especially being an inoperable vehicle, average acceptance rate with success is around 50-60 cents a mile in my situation. Also something that wasn't stated to me till late in my shipping attempt.

After getting the run around from 4 companies and burning 3 weeks i decided to turn to uship.com. You post a shipping job up and people bid for the job. What i also failed to realize was that the people bidding on this site are not trucking companies but brokers....once again. Once you accept, they then post your job on the national transit board for the truckers to bid on. I

knew that at least i was going though Uship there would be some kind of guarantee right? They claimed that 48hrs after accepting a bid if you do not have a pickup date you can cancel the booking and Uship(who holds your money) will refund all but like 100 bucks (also bs) to hold towards your next booking.


Well, I accepted a $996 bid from Montway Auto shippers, who are BBB A rated. This was on a friday. They are open 7 days a week. I gave them until tuesday of the next week before placing my first inquiring phone call as to why i had not received a pickup date. "No idea but they are working on it, should be soon" I waited two more days, called again this time rather angry, it was now almost a month since i started this ordeal, price had gone from 600 to close to $1000 and the car had gotten literally, no where.


First call on day 6, post booking yeilded the same "Idk we are working on it, let me look into it for you" BS. This is when i was told it was not a well traveled route....Anyways, gave the guy the benefit of the doubt, he called back about a half hour later asking if I was willing to wait a week. Sure why the hell not. He had a truck coming from Texas that could come get it and was headed to MA. No idea why they were't pursuing this regardless but none the less I bit. Held my breath till the next week, the car was picked up a day early and delivered 2 days later.

The ship itself went relatively smoothly and the car was undamaged. Aside from the fact the trucker decided to head to my house from his trucking yard which is 2.5 hours away, while i was at work, after we had a conversation the night before, ending with him agreeing to call me the next day so we could arrange the right time for delivery. Well, he called me, 1 hour away from my house, 1.5 hours away from his yard. Fortunately, Sean (phatgt4me) was able to go to my house and help him offload the car.

All in all, glad I finally got the car.

Tips for those of you who considered shipping:

Don't give anyone your card info prior to the car being picked up.

Uship at least offers some recourse if you decide to break a booking.

You will almost never be contacted by the actual trucking companies with a shipping quote.

Do you research!

And it will more than likely cost you more than the initial quotes you receive.


Hope this helps anyone in my position!!
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Wow. I must have really lucked out when i had my 626GT shipped from NY to IL. I spent under $500, had the car picked up not even a week after getting the quotes, and the driver kept in contact with me over the 2 day drive it took to deliver the car. After my experience with the 626, i actually plan on buying long distance in the future again just so im not buying rusting midwest cars in the future.
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Wow. I must have really lucked out when i had my 626GT shipped from NY to IL. I spent under $500, had the car picked up not even a week after getting the quotes, and the driver kept in contact with me over the 2 day drive it took to deliver the car. After my experience with the 626, i actually plan on buying long distance in the future again just so im not buying rusting midwest cars in the future.
It was a learning experience for sure. I know what i would do the next time around but it was more than i had anticipated in terms of effort thats for sure.
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Wow you had to go through all that just to ship a car? Dang! I have been considering shipping a car but now I don't know if I its worth the headache . lol. But at least you finally got your probe. It is a beautiful car! Good luck with the build!
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EveryDetails 1st gen is a piece of art! The body work alone no one has done anything even comparable in my eye's. But last i knew it still didnt have a motor in it yet.
Engine is in, I'm currently wiring it. Thanks for the nice comment.

I'm going to enjoy PLX92's project. His new car has an interesting history and it happens to have started out looking like my first car, the 89GT:



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