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  • Ughh!!!! No start, and racing in six days!

    Hi. I've got a no-start situation. The car took about 10 seconds to fire two weeks ago after sitting for a month, 30 seconds last night, and this morning it cranks but won't run. It's getting fuel, not sure about spark. Is this progressively longer time to fire up an indication of a certain failure? It never took more than 5 seconds to start before.

    I'm about to replace the crank sensor. What's the easiest way to check for spark without damaging the disty? Oh.... the disty is only 3-4 years old according to the guy I bought it from three years ago. Thanks.
    95 Probe GT -- 24 Hours of LeMons race car!
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  • #2
    take spark plug wire off of spark plug, put spare spark plug on said wire...set on intake manifold. Crank and watch for spark.

    Take paperclip, stick in ten+ground in diag box. Turn key on but no start. Count flash check codes.

    Probably crank sensor, or coolant temp sensor.
    I've Been Probed.

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    • #3
      Just replaced crank sensor, still no start. Would the coolant temp sensor cause a no start?

      Also, forgot to mention earlier -- a couple times while trying to start the car, the radiator fan came on after I stopped cranking? WTF? The TPS is adjusted correctly.

      I'll check for spark and report back. Thanks.
      Last edited by majo8; October 17, 2015, 12:41 PM.
      95 Probe GT -- 24 Hours of LeMons race car!
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      • #4
        No spark. Possible distributor failure?
        Last edited by majo8; October 17, 2015, 12:59 PM.
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        • #5
          Yes...
          Some people are living life and some people are just living.

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          • #6
            Disty.

            Do an HEI mod.
            1994 Project PGT

            M62 In Progress...

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            • #7
              I'm getting a code 2 -- crankshaft position sensor. I know there's two CPS's, the one in the disty and the one I replaced that reads on the front of the engine. Does code 2 mean one or the other, or does it mean it could be either?

              If it means it could be either, that could be my disty, right? Seeing as I replaced the front of the engine CPS, and both the old one and new one are unlikely to be bad?
              95 Probe GT -- 24 Hours of LeMons race car!
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              • #8
                The disty is getting power -- checked the power at the connectors.
                95 Probe GT -- 24 Hours of LeMons race car!
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                • #9
                  what are you running?

                  Mid-Ohio doesn't have anything on their schedule past August 15 and neither LeMons nor Chumpcar show anything at Mid-Ohio for this weekend.

                  so i have no idea what the sanctioning body is or actual date / time of the comp.

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                  • #10
                    AER -- American Endurance Racing -- Oct 24-25. If I can get this miserable piece of sh!t running, that is.
                    95 Probe GT -- 24 Hours of LeMons race car!
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                    • #11
                      Well...... it wasn't the disty, replaced with a new unit, still getting the CPS code 2 and I checked the wiring all the way to the ECU -- and it's good.

                      Anyone got a KL89 ECU for sale?
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                      • #12
                        Make sure the trigger wheel on crank is intact and clean
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by majo8 View Post
                          Well...... it wasn't the disty, replaced with a new unit, still getting the CPS code 2 and I checked the wiring all the way to the ECU -- and it's good.

                          Anyone got a KL89 ECU for sale?
                          Talk to branscoset.
                          Some people are living life and some people are just living.

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                          • #14
                            Btw 95 distys don't have the second sensor. If I unplug the sensor on the side of the engine (or if it were to fail) the car won't run.

                            With the fan coming on and the progressive deterioration I'd say either the ecu or some weird wiring gremlin. But I'm relatively new to the 2nd gen scene and haven't (yet) had to diagnose a no-start...
                            '91 LX ATX: stock(ish), barn restoration R.I.P.
                            '95 GT MTX: modded intake and exhaust, front strut bar, mirror-tinted rear windows, leather, sun roof. Way too much fun to drive! summer DD/play car
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                            • #15
                              Thanks for the replies everyone.

                              I think browncoat is right -- I'm currently looking for an ECU, and if that doesn't work, it's probably some wiring problem. I even unplugged the fan relays just for kicks to see if that was an issue!

                              I should probably do as Probesport recommended and check the crank wheel.

                              Unfortunately, I did miss the race. Such is racing......
                              Last edited by majo8; October 24, 2015, 08:23 PM.
                              95 Probe GT -- 24 Hours of LeMons race car!
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