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  • #61
    Does it matter if we send in ZE cams as compared to DE cams? Im assumed after the re-grind they come out the same no matter which cams we send them, as long as they are withing spec of course
    1990 Turbo KLZE Festiva

    http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...2/IMG_0385.jpg

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    • #62
      ^why would you waste a set of ze cams when you can pick up de cams for almost nothing
      95 PGT white dd klze / mtx fidanza,maf swapped obx headers 2 1/2" mandrel bent 14.3 sec 1/4mile time
      94 PGT blue toy de/ze/g4 hybrid/ mtx turbo 5- 10 psi maf swapped aem piggy back, fidanza mandrel bent exaust
      93 PGT red klde/mtx klg4 intake,wild orchid interior
      97&94&93 PGT gone
      DALE

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      • #63
        I have both sets of cams lol I'd rather send in the DE cams I have but thought I'd double check that it doesn't make a difference which ones they receive
        1990 Turbo KLZE Festiva

        http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...2/IMG_0385.jpg

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        • #64
          send them the de and send me the ze...
          something different

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          • #65
            Any input on race cams in ze heads with a turbo? Good or bad
            RIP 93 EGT ZE/DE on 8psi
            93 PGT build comming soon to WISPOC
            Cameron

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            • #66
              ^what the hell you doing on here your supposed to be working
              95 PGT white dd klze / mtx fidanza,maf swapped obx headers 2 1/2" mandrel bent 14.3 sec 1/4mile time
              94 PGT blue toy de/ze/g4 hybrid/ mtx turbo 5- 10 psi maf swapped aem piggy back, fidanza mandrel bent exaust
              93 PGT red klde/mtx klg4 intake,wild orchid interior
              97&94&93 PGT gone
              DALE

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              • #67
                Originally posted by daweb View Post
                ^what the hell you doing on here your supposed to be working
                I am working but the cool thing is my boss knows I'm on my phone, and I get internet down here so I'm using it
                RIP 93 EGT ZE/DE on 8psi
                93 PGT build comming soon to WISPOC
                Cameron

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                • #68
                  SO any word on the tri-flow turbo grinds???
                  1992 Mazda MX-3 GS - KLG4 Turbo

                  Scott

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                  • #69
                    previously I thought i had read somewhere that there was also a couple of variations on the tri-flow grinds. one for turbos and a different one for S/C setups.

                    not sure if this is the case but was seeking clarification?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by ausloki View Post
                      previously I thought i had read somewhere that there was also a couple of variations on the tri-flow grinds. one for turbos and a different one for S/C setups.

                      not sure if this is the case but was seeking clarification?
                      Yes. N.A. and Turbo have different exhaust timings.

                      The triflow is not very "mystic", its just that every other the intake cam lobe is grinded more aggressive than the other half


                      NEW TRI-FLOW GRIND:
                      Prime Int: 218° @ .050 / 288° duration / .363 L
                      Sec Int: 210° @ .050 / 274° duration / .355 L

                      Exh: 218° @ .050 / 288° duration .363 L N.A.

                      Exh: 210° @ .050 / 274° duration .355 L Turbo
                      Mazda 626 GT - 2.5 V6 - KL31
                      Mazda RX-7 FD - EU spec

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Zepticon View Post
                        Yes. N.A. and Turbo have different exhaust timings.

                        The triflow is not very "mystic", its just that every other the intake cam lobe is grinded more aggressive than the other half
                        thats not quite what i was after. I have seen the specs for a basic lift for the tri-flow as well as the listed specs for the plain turbo & race grinds.

                        what I had seen mentioned previously was a variation on the tri-flow grind that was a further customisation for either s/c based engines or turbo based engines.

                        weather there is any truth to the matter was the clarification i was seeking!
                        and if so what was the difference

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by ausloki View Post
                          thats not quite what i was after. I have seen the specs for a basic lift for the tri-flow as well as the listed specs for the plain turbo & race grinds.

                          what I had seen mentioned previously was a variation on the tri-flow grind that was a further customisation for either s/c based engines or turbo based engines.

                          weather there is any truth to the matter was the clarification i was seeking!
                          and if so what was the difference
                          Aah, well now i get it. Question is, would that be usefull or not?

                          From what i have read, Tri-Flow is mainly to give Turbo and NA cars a higer top power, but maintaining or even improve the low end. Would a SC have the same low end issues as NA and Turbo have? Would a set of aggressive SC grind cams reduce your low end torque?

                          Looking at the Tri-Flow specs available vs the SC grind:

                          N/A:
                          Prime Int: 218° @ .050 / 288° duration / .363 L
                          Sec Int: 210° @ .050 / 274° duration / .355 L
                          Exh: 218° @ .050 / 288° duration .363 L

                          Turbo:
                          Prime Int: 218° @ .050 / 288° duration / .363 L
                          Sec Int: 210° @ .050 / 274° duration / .355 L
                          Exh: 210° @ .050 / 274° duration .355 L

                          NOS/SC:
                          Sec Int: 210° @ .050 / 274° duration / .355 L
                          Exh: 218° @ .050 / 288° duration .363 L
                          You can see that the SC grind is very similar to parts of the Tri-Flow N/A grind.
                          How that translates to performance numbers is hard to tell. I ordered myself a set of NA Tri-Flows, and i will run NOS on them from time to time.
                          Last edited by Zepticon; February 8, 2012, 07:21 AM.
                          Mazda 626 GT - 2.5 V6 - KL31
                          Mazda RX-7 FD - EU spec

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                          • #73
                            Anyone got a spare set of cams? if so pm me please

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                            • #74
                              Hmm the tri-flow sounds yum

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                              • #75
                                Ok so I think I want in on this even if I have to pull my current cams. I don't have very long to decide. Please give me advice. I have decided to do a budget semi build on my klde with Ze pistons with only honing the stock block and just a basic at home he's job as well as acid porting my intake. I eventually want to runs boost later maybe 1-2 years from now so what cams would you guys suggest. I was thinking about just getting the turbo grind even though I won't have one for a while. I'm looking mainly to get in on the pricing.

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