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  • Why we're called MOPOC:

    I recently saw a thread in the Probe Lounge, where MOPOC's name is talked about, and I wanted to give some input as to why our name was chosen to be MOPOC, even though we cover an area that's more than just Missouri. I decided to post here in the MOPOC forum, since it's info that probably not a lot of people still remember, and the new members probably don't know about it at all.

    I don't know where to start, so I'll start from the beginning...

    When I first bought a Probe, there were no Probe clubs to be found in the area (looking on PT and searching online brought no results). So I searched on PT and found a couple of other members of PT who live in Missouri (Josh Belcher and Matt Lemons), and we decided to start a club. I still remember that first meeting at Chili's with Josh to talk about details and plans for the club. We named it MOPOC, to go along with the themes that are already presented in the PT forums (state initials and then POC). We found some other members of PT in Missouri, and then started searching for those that were in surrounding areas (Kansas being one). Well, when talking to other Probe Owners in the area, we found that somebody had started a small Kansas Probe club (consisting of somewhere between 4 and 6 Probes), going by the name of KPOC. This was the first we'd heard about them (they didn't have a club website or forum). And some of their members had already joined our club. Others in their club suggested merging the two clubs together and changing the name to reflect the covered area. Some of the name ideas that were given were:

    KCPOC - Kansas City POC
    KSMOPOC - Kansas/Missouri POC
    MOKANPOC - Missouri/Kansas POC
    MWPOC - MidWest POC

    And there were some others that I can't recall right now.

    Well, I personally had already gone through a lot of work to get the club name of MOPOC established (we were hard at work building up a good MOPOC website, and we were working on meeting the requirements of ProbeTalk to get our own club forum), and back then we were like PT was before it was a website. All we could do was e-mail each other for info.

    Josh and Matt were very against changing the name, but since some members (and non-members) of MOPOC who were from Kansas wanted to change the club name, we decided to hold a vote. Most of the members wanted to keep MOPOC, and a few didn't care either way. But a couple of people (non-members) were refusing to have anything to do with the club, unless the name was changed to represent Kansas as well as Missouri. Well, since the majority (by a large margin) and myself wanted to keep the name of MOPOC, that's what we did. We have never been an exclusive club by any means. Any Probe owners in any of the surrounding states have always been invited to join up, and ANYone is always welcome to come to club meets, especially considering that some of the meets aren't even held in Missouri.

    So when you see posts like this one:
    "Yeah we need a meet... we had one meet a long time ago as the KPOC in Lawrence... until our POC was highjacked by MOPOC."

    And that is why there is still some grudgery by some non-mopocers.

    As for myself, I have always thought that there would eventually be a KSPOC. I think there is definitely a large enough Probe gathering there. But as with the beginnings of MOPOC, organization is what it will take to make it happen.
    If you want to know how to get a club forum on PT.com, I will list the requirements for you:

    1. You have to have 20 or more members in the club
    2. You have to have a meet and have pics to prove it
    3. You have to have a club website with a link to ProbeTalk
    4. You have to have a president
    (they will serve as the forum Moderator)
    5. You have to have enough participation in the forum, that the Admins don't shut it down once it gets started (1 post a week isn't going to be enough)

    That's it. If you can get organized enough to do all of those things on the list, then you just have to PM and tell the Admins you're ready to have your own forum.
    I think that a KSPOC and a MOPOC would be able to work well together. However, I also think that MOPOC (as a whole) is doing great as it is in trying to ensure that everyone possible is being included.

    The end.
    James Ransom
    www.MOPOC.net
    2000 Millenia
    (1995 PGT - SOLD)

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    always the right words James

    just to make it clear, i have nothing aginst those who want to start a POC in Kansas, i think it would be awsome.


    should this be the case, i highly recommend you guys look to James for leadership, as he always had his head on straight...


    Curt
    In our memories, he lives. Janusz we will miss you
    99 Arrest Me Red MGT

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    • #3
      That is a good breakdown. Thanks.

      I am personally all for keeping the MOPOC name and having surrounding areas included. It is already set-up, organized, and has a good community in it. I don't get why some people get so upset over two letters in the name. Plus, even with a fairly good sized group in kansas, I don't think there would be enough activity in there alone to justify a seperate forum.
      Ryan a.k.a. Corndog
      96 SE Sold
      02 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V (New Car)

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      • #4
        the majority of kansas members are close enough

        the majority of the kansas members are so close to the state line that it would be ridiculous. besides then you lose the expertise of the other state. stlauto has been a godsend for my car problem. and sturgeon in ks has also offered help. but without mopoc I would not know either. why break up a good thing? after all the more the merrier.
        you ever stop to think and forget to start again.
        95 pgt black virtually completely stock(so I only race hondas) I have a warm air intake courtesy of 007gts

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        • #5
          im with ryan, dont see what people get so worked up about it for. Who cares about the name of something, if we cared about names....none of us would drive probes.
          94 Rio Red PGT---sold
          91 Aztech Red 240sx Coupe ---wrecked(not by me) and sold
          93 White 240sx Coupe---Enough of everything

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          • #6
            this was my post in the lounge thread, i feel the same as dave about this one:


            okay, first of all, my name is ross, im from kansas city kansas, im a praticipating member in the kc area, im helping build jon's car, im helping jason with his, im working on my own and im friends with a lot of the active members, including a lot of people from st louis and springfield, along with the missouri side of kansas city

            here is my opinion on the whole kspoc thing, im from kansas, and im proud to be in mopoc, i really dont give a crap what the name is, i mean, weve had meets in missouri and weve had meets in kansas, ive meet some of the coolest people in missiouri and im proud to be in the same club as them, if some of the newer people want to start a kspoc, thats cool, but im mopoc for life, because i know what id be missing out on, and all the cool people id be missing out on by seperating from the missouri club, mopoc is just a name, its the people that make it what it is, so whatever happens, im in mopoc...

            ross
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            • #7
              Awesome breakdown. It is some history I asked for along time ago..but was closed instantly (thanks crash! ).

              James, Matt, and Josh (who's he?) are the founders....?

              Who founded KPOC? and How and when did presidency change?


              -jake

              *1995 Laser Red PGT *1994 Wild Orchid PGT *1991 Red PLX
              P-R-O-B-E-D

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              • #8
                Randall, and i doug i beleive were some of the main guys that founded kpoc...james founded mopoc, they merged....here we are now
                94 Rio Red PGT---sold
                91 Aztech Red 240sx Coupe ---wrecked(not by me) and sold
                93 White 240sx Coupe---Enough of everything

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                • #9
                  I personally don't care what's before the POC, I just want to be able to be close enough to hang out with some fellow probe owners and have fun ....oh yeah, and I love OE
                  SOLD-1993 PGT Rio Red, 5-speed w/ PRM Intake, Greddy SP Catback Exhaust, Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch, Magnecore Plug Wires, Random Tech. High-Flow Cat, Eibach Springs, Tokico HB Struts, Freedom Design FSTB, Road/Race Engin. RSTB, MBX Motorsport Floor Bar, Addco Rear Antisway bar, PRD STS, MBX Motorsport Gauge-Pillar, AutoMeter Gauges, etc.....
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                  • #10
                    Josh Belcher is 95GT i believe.

                    the thing is:

                    SAY MOPOC
                    SAY KSPOC
                    SAY all the others he listed.

                    MOPOC just slides off the tongue and the others dont...

                    And James was the president because me and Josh knew we could not handle it. I could not make it to the meets because I was too young and my parents wouldnt let me drive that far so it would be pointless for me to be president. And when I did set up a meet in (eldon, or osage beach or something??) i didnt even show up lol! And neither did josh, hehe.

                    But their was a time when i got on ptalk and they were updating and I found a link and changed myself to an administrator and had an avator and stuff, remember that anyone? lol

                    (ive been on ptalk longer then my name says, this is my second user name)
                    ...Matthew Lemens ©..........www.lemens-ts.com................
                    1993 Probe GT - 19's/BagStrutted/Kitted/Shaved/Molded

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                    • #11
                      werd i love mopoc, even though i only really hang out with people on the kansas side, i dont think there's many active kcmo ppl...which seems weird to me but oh well what do i know i just got back. i agree with matt its all about how you pronounce the name....mopoc > kpoc > kspoc

                      i remember back in the day when me and jesse were crusin up here in gladstone and the kid came up and was like hey guys look, its the guys from the M. O. P. O. C. and we just had to laugh

                      what is in a name? would not a rose by any other name smell as sweet?

                      can't wait for good weather, me and tom slammin OE's awwwwwwwww yea

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                      • #12
                        Eric is right, its just a name.....now if you people are gonna go through all that work just for a different name that dont even sound as good, and the fact that youll then be able to say "im the KSPOC founder", then your wasting your time. You might as well call it GAYPOC(sounds better). I garentee we will all still have meets together, we will all be whoring back and forth in each forum. So whats the point? iv been in mopoc for like the last 2-3 years and its the best group of people iv met, im not about to ditch curt and all the STL and Springfeild guys for KSPOC just cuz im 5 minutes away from Missouri. I beleive you will find that others feel the same. Plus iv got too much vynl on my car that says mopoc I understand that some of you guys are way out on the other side of KS and i somewhat see why youd want your own, cuz your so far away. But you should realize that the clubs with good amounts of people(=bigger,better, bad ass meets), are spread out, its hard to have 100 members live in the same county. Thats all i have to say.
                        94 Rio Red PGT---sold
                        91 Aztech Red 240sx Coupe ---wrecked(not by me) and sold
                        93 White 240sx Coupe---Enough of everything

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                        • #13
                          Hey, we could all start our own clubs, then we can ALL be presidents!

                          This is one stupid ass thread IMO. Things have been working forever as they are now...

                          If it goes thru, and KS and MO split, I will be neither, simply because I think this is really dumb.

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                          • #14
                            who cares its just a name.. i would relax your in a club thats alive and doing well enjoy it.

                            but i guess you can fight about and just ruin a good time too.

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                            • #15
                              yeah, alot of kansas probers are close to the MO KS border. but still, if you want kansas probers to be a part of MOPOC, then have the MOPOC meets a little closer to kansas.
                              -Jay
                              ASE Master Certified
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                              THE RACECAR daily - '95 PGT mtx stock
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