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Old February 9th, 2017, 10:27 AM   #1
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Price Gouging

Ive been a part of the Probe community for over a decade. And I've been a member of this forum for just as long. And overall it's been great. But with this latest project I've noticed something very disheartening.. Why the hell are members of this forum trying to get rich off of other members for their parts? Everytime I ask someone what they're looking for out of something, I'm hit with some absurd number. The Probe community didn't used to be this way. For god's sake if I'm looking for a small interior part I don't want to spend $100 for it. This forum is and has always been dedicated to keeping these cars on the road and giving people a place for information. Not a place to make real cash. People are able to invest in these cars because they're cheap. They're not a high dollar car.

Don't get me wrong, your entitled to request whatever you want from your parts. But remember there may come a day when you're looking for something, and would you pay what you're asking someone else to pay? And I'm not talking about the rare and sought after pieces (Ie Shoguns, leathers, 1 piece door panels, etc), no, get your money for those. But let's chill out on raping members for basic stuff. Again this is a community, lately it doesn't seem like it.

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Old February 9th, 2017, 02:07 PM   #2
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Car parts prices go up as they get harder to find yea it may be just be a probe but there's not many left.
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Old February 9th, 2017, 03:30 PM   #3
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Why the hell are members of this forum trying to get rich off of other members for their parts? Everytime I ask someone what they're looking for out of something, I'm hit with some absurd number. The Probe community didn't used to be this way.
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Old February 9th, 2017, 04:02 PM   #4
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I think it is as XRP has said. They are getting to be extremely rare. And places like pull-a-part or pick-and-pull have been steadily raising their prices through the roof. It is places like these big box JYs that are driving used part prices. Ebay is also driving the prices.

I used to chip and sell ECUs -but haven't done it much any more because the average cost of an unmodified and un-guaranteed ECU has gone up to well over $100 with many hitting near the $200 mark. This leaves very little to no profit margin for people who want to modify and sell.

I used to be able to go to PAP and grab a wheel barrel of parts and end up with a tab most of the time -under $100. Try that these days -and you will be offering a kidney or liver. So you can't complain too much about people on here probably asking a little more than they would have -say 8 years ago or so! I don't think anyone on here has any intention of trying to get rich from selling Probe parts. If they do -then they might be a little
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Old February 9th, 2017, 05:44 PM   #5
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yep what is said above. That is why anytime there is one in a local yard. I take all clips, and panels that typical get more use and break. Even bolts that hold stuff together. Switches, console pieces all of it. I figure at some point I'll need it and everything is super cheap at a yard here compared to prices online.
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Old February 9th, 2017, 06:35 PM   #6
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Old February 9th, 2017, 07:48 PM   #7
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Just 3 years ago I could walk into nearly any junk yard and be greeted by over a dozen Probes. These days I know of a single junk yard that has 3 Probes in which I have been slowly picking parts off of for the past 12 or so years. I use to have a large amount or spare parts built up also. Slowly those parts have ether been used or sold. Finding parts cars is getting harder and when you do find one it costs a testy or two in order to buy it. I have given away parts in the past just because I was out of room. A lot of what I have left is staying in storage in case I personally ever need it for my car. I may part with some of the stuff down the road but I for one wont be giving away the parts that I was smart enough to start saving up nearly a decade ago.
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Old February 9th, 2017, 07:53 PM   #8
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Old February 9th, 2017, 07:57 PM   #9
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Maybe I didn't make myself clear. I'm not saying that since we're on this site we should be giving parts away for free or for ridiculous prices. No. What I'm saying is that it's ridiculous what some guys are trying to get out of their parts. In the past 2 months I've been quoted $95 shipped for an ash tray lid, $105 shipped for a wiper switch, & 100 plus shipping for door handles. That's stupid. Like I said, ask someone to pay what you would pay.

And Scott (pile of rd1), it's funny you should comment seeing as how I spent good money with you and actually DID throw in parts for free. Would you trade one of your custom harnesses for an ash tray lid and a wiper switch? Because the prices equal out.
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Old February 9th, 2017, 08:02 PM   #10
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And Scott (pile of rd1), it's funny you should comment seeing as how I spent good money with you and actually DID throw in parts for free. Would you trade one of your custom harnesses for an ash tray lid and a wiper switch? Because the prices equal out.[/QUOTE]

That RIGHT there is EXACTLY what I was waiting for. One of the biggest persons to overcharge on PT for those crap harness' that consume more gas than it would if it was left stock and also leaves the cel on all the time!!!!
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Old February 10th, 2017, 02:20 AM   #11
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What kind of harness is being mentioned?? Curious
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Old February 10th, 2017, 06:09 AM   #12
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I've just made practice lately of buying whole parts cars, breaking them down and keeping everything when given the opportunity lol
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Old February 10th, 2017, 06:11 AM   #13
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He makes plug and play harnesses for the VAF to MAF conversion. I have yet to install mine so I can't speak on its effectiveness. But I've heard good and bad.
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Old February 10th, 2017, 06:12 AM   #14
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It's not just here. I'm a member of another board for a vehicle that had low production numbers from the start. Over the years on that board, I've seen certain people nitpick the $#|+ out of other vehicles and/or parts being listed for sale so THEY could possibly get a good deal, only to turn around and ask for top $$$ when THEY were the person doing the selling.
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Old February 10th, 2017, 08:50 AM   #15
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I told you $50 shipped and you said no thanks....I can also get other parts as well and would have no issue giving a fair price. $50 shipper for 1 piece black handles that work is cheap.
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Old February 10th, 2017, 09:08 AM   #16
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^^^I'm not referring to our conversation. Someone else messaged me. While I wouldn't consider $50 for door handles cheap, it is fair with how everything is going. PM me if you still have them.
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Old February 10th, 2017, 10:26 AM   #17
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And Scott (pile of rd1), it's funny you should comment seeing as how I spent good money with you and actually DID throw in parts for free. Would you trade one of your custom harnesses for an ash tray lid and a wiper switch? Because the prices equal out.
That RIGHT there is EXACTLY what I was waiting for. One of the biggest persons to overcharge on PT for those crap harness' that consume more gas than it would if it was left stock!!!![/QUOTE]

I have one of the harnesses from before the a/c was figured out. I have no complaints. A lot of work goes into those. I've tried to make one myself and just sorting out the what goes to what gives me a literal headache each and every time. Then there's the materials, time it takes to make one. So far as gas mileage goes, I get better gas mileage with it, than with a 95 DE ECU on a straight neck. That's with it pulling harder at higher rpms, and lower rpms feeling the same. I'd definitely buy another at the price I paid.
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Like I said, I haven't installed mine yet so I can't review it. But it's just ironic that the person who wants to shut the thread down without giving any input is the same person I've given free parts to. It's also ironic that he charged me $30 more than he used to. But whatever. My issue isn't with him. It's with the whole thing.

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It's good to discuss this, even if it brings out a little but hurt, as long as it's only a little. I think I overpaid for one item I bought through this site. It's a risk you take. I'd say it's less risk than ebay or sometimes a JY when you don't know whether something will work. Everything I bought was what it was supposed to be and in good condition and was stuff I couldn't find anywhere else at the time. Sometimes you have to factor in that convenience factor.
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Old February 11th, 2017, 03:02 AM   #20
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it really all boils down to how much someone is willing to pay to modify and/or maintain their probe. The part which gets me is when someone is trying to financially rape someone for an imperfect part where the imperfection is not disclosed when it is obvious/known beforehand. These sort of things need to be divulged and the price adjusted accordingly. If people would abide by this then the sellers of high priced items without defect should be able to get as much as they can for their part.

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Like I said, I haven't installed mine yet so I can't review it. But it's just ironic that the person who wants to shut the thread down without giving any input is the same person I've given free parts to. It's also ironic that he charged me $30 more than he used to. But whatever. My issue isn't with him. It's with the whole thing.
I have not seen the quality -nor do I know how much is being charged. But what I do know -is that I have built high quality wire harnesses before -and with the kind of work that needs to go into a decent harness -you can't ask enough to cover the labor and expenses! It is a fact! It takes me a long time to make a decent harness -and if I were to try to cut that time down -the quality would suffer as a result. And what is the point of buying a jacked up harness to improve something?

So if he charged $30 more -maybe he is making a desperate attempt to find motivation to keep making them -when his efforts and costs should probably dictate a higher price hike than $30. That is just my .02 from all my years of building harnesses -and why I don't build them to sell.
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Old February 11th, 2017, 08:20 AM   #22
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Thank Pick-N-Pull. They go around the country buying up all of the mom-n-pop junk yards with the goal to jack up the price to 1/3-1/2 the price of retail. It happened to the 3 pull-a-part locations we used to have within 20 minutes of Everett. Gone are the days when you could get a used alternator for 8 bucks. But Schnitzer loves the extra revenue so I doubt anything will ever change. ****ing capitalism.
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Steering wheel (no airbag) @ PNP: $11
Steering wheel (no airbag) as quoted from a member here: $85
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It's called haggling... 10 for that, you must be mad. I've seen EQs go for too much (can't remember how much but more than I wanted to pay.) I waited a loooooooong time and got one for $15-20 from another member. Same for a complete ZE engine. I paid 3 times what PaP would charge for a V6. I got a very clean, low miles, ZE with DE retainers and springs swapped, a freakin museum piece. It was less than shipping one from Japan, less than buying the extra parts, putting in the work to swap the springs, retainers and yank the engine myself.

If you don't like K-mart prices you don't stand in the aisles at K-mart throwing a fit, you shop elsewhere, someplace you know is cheaper. Personally, I don't like waiting in long lines, a lack of better choices, (everything is cheap because everything IS cheap,) and the hidden costs of govt. assistance for nearly all the cheaper stores employees, all the little stores, the local mom and pops closing down literally ruining America. End rant.

Try waiting for a for sale thread with a lot of parts being sold, probably some wiggle room on price when there is a lot to deal with.
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Steering wheel (no airbag) @ PNP: $11
Steering wheel (no airbag) as quoted from a member here: $85
Excuse me? I quoted you $40 shipped for the steering wheel, then you wanted me to throw in the wiper switch and I refused. I said $50 shipped for the wiper switch assembly and the steering wheel and you said that was to much.

Shipping the steering wheel and the wiper switch safely to you would cost me around $15, then you factor in my time to actually remove the part, pack it, drive it to the post office the fact that I have the part you need in the first place. All said and done I make around $30.

After the wheel was removed I noticed a chunk out of the back of it and refunded your money with explanation promptly.


I hate when people try and compare pick n pull to individual sellers. We are not pick n pull, nor are you paying $2 to get in or pulling the part your self.

"well I can get it for $11 at pick n pull." Good for you, go to pick n pull then.
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