not to get into a back and forth debate
1) Can you make 500 whp with 550cc injector?
YES
2) Is it a good long term ideal?
NO
Here's why not: In order to make 500whp with 550cc injectors you have to run you fuel pressure above 60 percent or your duty cycle between 95 to a 100%.
The ideal duty cycle for injectors is to keep them below 85% (preferably 80%).
running injectors at a high duty all the time will eventually fail.
ideal fuel pressure for a turbo car range from 42 to 47psi
so lets use that math
550cc injectors
fuel pressure 47
duty cycle 90%
should support 490 @crank 417 wheel so in a ideal situation you are short 83whp to your 500whp goal
so what do you really need to be safe
ideal duty cycle 85%
fuel pressure 47 (actually the fuel pressure could be lowered a little)
700cc injectors is what you actually need to safely run 500whp
i suggested the 850cc because it was a better long term option than the 550's.
Is 850 more than you need?
YES but i would rather have more then not enough plus 850's give you room to grow a little 550's dont and with 550's its only a matter of time till they fail trying to support 500whp over time
Food for thought with any build: build a car for more than what you need or what your goal is it will last longer over time
you want 500whp then build the car to support 600whp
the problem i have seen with most PT builds is the people here do just enough to get by and never think of the long term that why either the builds die or the car does
so in closing can you get 500whp out of 550cc injectors? YES (i never said you couldnt)
is 550cc ideal for that power level? NO
on gas
ideal hp numbers not saying you cant get more
550cc - 394@whp 463@crank
700cc - 501@whp 589@crank
850cc - 604@whp 715@crank
---------- Post added at 08:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:58 PM ----------
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1) Can you make 500 whp with 550cc injector?
YES
2) Is it a good long term ideal?
NO
Here's why not: In order to make 500whp with 550cc injectors you have to run you fuel pressure above 60 percent or your duty cycle between 95 to a 100%.
The ideal duty cycle for injectors is to keep them below 85% (preferably 80%).
running injectors at a high duty all the time will eventually fail.
ideal fuel pressure for a turbo car range from 42 to 47psi
so lets use that math
550cc injectors
fuel pressure 47
duty cycle 90%
should support 490 @crank 417 wheel so in a ideal situation you are short 83whp to your 500whp goal
so what do you really need to be safe
ideal duty cycle 85%
fuel pressure 47 (actually the fuel pressure could be lowered a little)
700cc injectors is what you actually need to safely run 500whp
i suggested the 850cc because it was a better long term option than the 550's.
Is 850 more than you need?
YES but i would rather have more then not enough plus 850's give you room to grow a little 550's dont and with 550's its only a matter of time till they fail trying to support 500whp over time
Food for thought with any build: build a car for more than what you need or what your goal is it will last longer over time
you want 500whp then build the car to support 600whp
the problem i have seen with most PT builds is the people here do just enough to get by and never think of the long term that why either the builds die or the car does
so in closing can you get 500whp out of 550cc injectors? YES (i never said you couldnt)
is 550cc ideal for that power level? NO
on gas
ideal hp numbers not saying you cant get more
550cc - 394@whp 463@crank
700cc - 501@whp 589@crank
850cc - 604@whp 715@crank
---------- Post added at 08:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:58 PM ----------
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