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Old March 5th, 2010, 09:42 PM   #1
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megasquirt - post your tables/msq here

im making a place to post your MSQ or images for comparison/discussion, if you like i can host them so they are always available (PM me). also provide as much info as you can as shown below:

Engine: straight neck full stock internal'd KLZE
Fuel Pressure: 32idle 40wot
Injector Size: 220CC (standard)
MS Version: V1, V3PCB MSnSExtra code
Relevant Problems: burning oil (leaky valve stem seals), overheating 102deg C
ECU: running IAC and A/C

req fuel:
**EDIT removed**

Target AFR Table:
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VE Table:
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/m...latesttune.jpg

Ignition Table:
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/m...latesttune.jpg

ive found a lot of people dont want to share this info due to dyno expense etc thats completely understandable, bear in mind most of the settings for one person will be useless for another person due to the differences in mods etc. with that in mind ill be coming back and editing my post with the most relevant tables. ill upload my MSQ later. im interested to see what other peoples target AFR tables are.
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Old March 5th, 2010, 11:08 PM   #2
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i never understood why people dont want to post their tables...

anyways heres mine:

engine: de short block, ze heads, cams, straight neck manifold
t3t04e at 11 psi, intercooled
stock fuel pressure, regulator, walbro 190
480cc nissan injectors
cdi ignition, external coil
msns extra 29y4, v2.2 pcb
stock ecu controls idle, a/c
relevant problems: traction

req_fuel 5.8

ve table:
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/7015/vetable.jpg

afr target:
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7869/afrtarget.jpg

spark:
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Old March 5th, 2010, 11:34 PM   #3
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94PGT thanks for sharing, out of curiosity why does your VE table start at 600rpm and 23kpa? im sure its fine but ive just assumed you dont need to put anything below idle kpa or rpm (i actually adjusted mine because i wanted a smaller area to control idle fuel, im assuming you idle around 32-34kpa with ZE cams? also you run 24deg at idle? thats some mad advance compared to mine (although the rest is very similar).
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Old March 6th, 2010, 12:18 AM   #4
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idle set around 650-700, so i have the first bin slightly lower...ie 600. my idle kpa is 31. i put in the 23 kpa bins to help with running overly rich when getting off the gas at low rpms since im not using deceleration settings...anything over 5% decel would just result in bucking.

im using idle advance settings, so i have it fixed at 10 deg btdc. when i open the throttle ever so slightly (set 2 ADC counts above throttle closed setting) it shoots the timing up to the mid 20s instantly which helps with throttle response and torque down low.
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Old March 6th, 2010, 07:29 AM   #5
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Here is my VE table, still a few lower bins that need tweaking
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Old April 5th, 2010, 06:05 AM   #6
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gonna try to get my squirt installed soon. for fuel only. its goin on a stock motor (fs) for now. anyone got a map o get me started
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Old April 6th, 2010, 11:01 AM   #7
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DIYPNP maps are stored in ZIP files with some other application notes. I might as well add them to this thread.

Our KLDE map is a bit incomplete as we weren't able to finish tuning it due to a mechanical problem. The owner fixed it and finished the tuning locally.

http://diyautotune.com/diypnp/apps/n...94-klde-mt.zip

And here's a F2T map.

http://diyautotune.com/diypnp/apps/n...092-f2t-mt.zip
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Old April 6th, 2010, 11:21 AM   #8
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DIYPNP maps are stored in ZIP files with some other application notes. I might as well add them to this thread.

Our KLDE map is a bit incomplete as we weren't able to finish tuning it due to a mechanical problem. The owner fixed it and finished the tuning locally.

http://diyautotune.com/diypnp/apps/n...94-klde-mt.zip

And here's a KLDE map.

http://diyautotune.com/diypnp/apps/n...092-f2t-mt.zip
.hey matt....do u mean the F2T (based on ur link)
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Old April 6th, 2010, 01:13 PM   #9
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I'll post mine when I get it dialed in better.
Would someone post their accell enrichment? Something close to a ZE with Long tube headers, 65mm TB, no IAC, 2.5" exhaust, and blaster3 coil. Thanks
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Old April 6th, 2010, 03:56 PM   #10
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I obviously am still having issues with the MS idle though. The warmup enrichment and idle setup in warmup or closed loop has to interfere with each other or something.

Mine hunts at warmup, once it is warm then idle still has dropping issues.
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Old April 6th, 2010, 08:40 PM   #11
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Ive been waiting for someone to make a thread like this for a long time lol, glad someone finally did.. Thanks
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Old April 7th, 2010, 06:24 AM   #12
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Oops, fixed that. Should be F2T for the second link.
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Old April 7th, 2010, 01:42 PM   #13
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i like this thread i hope it catches on.
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Old April 9th, 2010, 10:45 PM   #14
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Matt,
I was unable to find an "AFR Target Table" for the probes in your link posted above. By any chance do you or anyone have one thats good for beginners with boost?
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Old April 12th, 2010, 02:22 PM   #15
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I obviously am still having issues with the MS idle though. The warmup enrichment and idle setup in warmup or closed loop has to interfere with each other or something.

Mine hunts at warmup, once it is warm then idle still has dropping issues.
are you using ms to control idle? if not and its hunting then it is too lean, end of story really. turn off closed loop fuel correction and get everything dialed in first.
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Old April 13th, 2010, 06:37 AM   #16
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They're in the tune files, but we generally recommend aiming for around 14.7:1 at high vacuum, around 12.6:1 to 12.8:1 at 100 kPa, and bring it up to 11.6:1 to 11.9:1 at high boost.
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Old April 26th, 2010, 07:11 AM   #17
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Matt, the ignition settings on the how-to page for the ford probe are different from the ones in the msq and word document you posted above. which ones are the correct ones?
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Old April 26th, 2010, 07:39 AM   #18
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Let me know which write-up and I will check it out.
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Old April 26th, 2010, 08:18 AM   #20
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Matt, I was talking about the word doc and msq in the zip below:
http://diyautotune.com/diypnp/apps/n...94-klde-mt.zip

and the write-up on:
http://www.diyautotune.com/tech_arti..._mazda_mx6.htm in MegaTune Configuration for MS2/Extra

Can you just verify which settings are the correct ones. I'm still having problems with my KL, it just won't start, even with the stock disty.
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^Matt, any updates on this?
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DIYPNPs use slightly different ignition input and output hardware. Accordingly, the settings can be slightly different. Use the settings on the DIYPNP page only with DIYPNP hardware.
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Old June 10th, 2010, 09:46 PM   #23
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geez... so much for this post lasting :-/ right when i need to find a base stock fuel&spark map to start my DIYPNP v1.1 firmware: MS2 Extra 3.0.3u alpha 20100522....

I guess it's just trial and error for me So nobody wants to share their MSQ files?

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I'm a computer newb. How do I get a shot of my tables?
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using the "prt screen" button

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I'm a computer newb. How do I get a shot of my tables?
I usually just use the "print Screen" button on the keyboard, then open up Microsoft Paint or something and goto Edit/Paste and it pastes the whole screen shot of what you were doing. Then you can just crop and cut just the fuel and/or spark table and post it up
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