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    hey guys, I recently bought a Mr.Speed supercharger kit that came with the M62, a pulley for 5psi, a walbro 255 fuel pump, and megasquirt (i believe its the V2 board but cant remember, but to be honest I have no idea how to install it or use). I plan on installing the walbro and staying with the stock injectors on a afpr and a fmu. Does this sound like a good setup?

    I plan on running 5psi on my current DE. My questions are mainly about fuel and fuel management and would really appreciate any answers.

    1) I know I want an aeromotive afpr, but I don't know which one will work best. Also when I did searches on afpr installs it seems I'll need an adapter plate like the MBX one, and I was wondering if these are still around?

    2) I plan on running a vortech fmu, but I'm not entirely sure which ratio would be optimal. Remember I want to stay with the stock injectors because I know I wont have the s/c on all the time, and I dont want to run rich as all hell when its off (please feel free to correct me if you think I should use bigger injectors or not)

    3) As for managing fuel I want the AEM uego wideband. I understand that the I need to have a extra bung welded in to have this work, is this correct?

    I'd like to have some of these questions answered so I can start ordering parts to be back home so I can install everything over my winter break. Any help or further suggestions/guidance would be greatly appreciated!
    There are some who call me.....Tim
    http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w...y/IMG_7612.jpg 2005 R6- new toy
    http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w...e/IMG_4813.jpg 96pgt-SOLD

  • #2
    yea you do need another bung welded into your DP so it will read the A/F mixture of BOTH banks, not just one

    also you shouldnt need a FMU when your on megasquirt
    1996 PGT

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    • #3
      Yea, if you use the Megasquirt you can run your car with different maps with the S/C and without the S/C so it doesn't mess with your fuel mapping.
      Blue 94 PSE DD/Winter beater
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      • #4
        Oh man you remind me of me like 7 years ago, 20 years old, a mr.speed kit, MS and a lot of questions. I want to know what pulley make it 5psi, all Mr.speed kits came with atleast 7psi pulleys which also neted up to 9psi in the lower rpms because of the VRIS.
        -DOnt both with the FMU if you allready have MS
        -If you cant find a MBX fuel rail adaptor then get a universal one on ebay but need to do a search on who has bought the correct size
        -Any wideband out there is fine, pick the one you like and go with it
        -Get Millenia S injectors
        -Aeromotive a1000 fpr and some fittings
        1993 Mercury tRacer :Vitara & mFactory: In progress 2020
        1994 Mercury TrAcer Wagon : '02 SPI swap : sold
        2014 Factory Five 818s: sold
        2000 Lotus esprit v8TT : 1st v8 on MS3x, ls1 coils,h20 injection
        1997 Nissan 200sx 1.6L : 35-39mpg the daily

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        • #5
          Originally posted by CDN Pr0b3 View Post
          Yea, if you use the Megasquirt you can run your car with different maps with the S/C and without the S/C so it doesn't mess with your fuel mapping.
          MS will allow you to make a map of sufficient size without having to switch maps. it is based on manifold intake pressure, hence the map sensor.

          with the Mr Speed setup he wouldn't make enough boost to really require multiple maps

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          • #6
            id advise against the fmu as well. had some issues w my last one and it took out my klze

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            • #7
              mac1 I guess your right, I kind of assumed it would make 5 psi so next time I'm home I"ll measure it, and I believe Sasha has an equation which should tell how much boost it makes?

              So it seems fmu's aren't liked very much, and I suppose I should probably start learning up on how to get the MS hooked up. Thats gonna be a challenge because my current ms know how is 0, but I'm willing to learn I'll just try to get a hold of jordan (Shaoddome?) and see what I can learn.

              I have another question about running a fmic and going with some sort of a waste gate. I've found that if you are running 5psi or under a fmic isn't going to make much of a difference but if this pulley is good 7psi I wonder if it would be a good idea? I mean its not like it could hurt any right. Also I wonder if I'll need any sort of waste gate/bov on a supercharger setup like this. I've watched almost all the m62 probe videos on youtube and about half of them have some sort of waste gate on them. I feel like such a newb asking these types of questions but hey, ya gotta learn sometime
              There are some who call me.....Tim
              http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w...y/IMG_7612.jpg 2005 R6- new toy
              http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w...e/IMG_4813.jpg 96pgt-SOLD

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              • #8
                If you bought a complete kit then it should have 2 bungs for bov's or come with the "Monza" cheapo bov's. The wastegate was never integrated because the boost was safe to begin with. Only way you can get a intercooler to fit would be to install the blower backwards and point the oultet forward and down with the included piping.
                1993 Mercury tRacer :Vitara & mFactory: In progress 2020
                1994 Mercury TrAcer Wagon : '02 SPI swap : sold
                2014 Factory Five 818s: sold
                2000 Lotus esprit v8TT : 1st v8 on MS3x, ls1 coils,h20 injection
                1997 Nissan 200sx 1.6L : 35-39mpg the daily

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mac1 View Post
                  If you bought a complete kit then it should have 2 bungs for bov's or come with the "Monza" cheapo bov's. The wastegate was never integrated because the boost was safe to begin with. Only way you can get a intercooler to fit would be to install the blower backwards and point the oultet forward and down with the included piping.
                  Yea it did come with those nasty bov. The two bungs your talking about, are those the two bungs that are right on the outlet pipe from the s/c? And what do you mean by installing the blower backwards? I believe this kit has the s/c setup on its side so the outlet faces the firewall. something like this

                  http://img87.imageshack.us/i/dscn1324ro6.jpg/

                  thats a picture of mattm's setup and hes running meth injection i believe, which is also another thing I should probably look into
                  There are some who call me.....Tim
                  http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w...y/IMG_7612.jpg 2005 R6- new toy
                  http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w...e/IMG_4813.jpg 96pgt-SOLD

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                  • #10
                    DUde if you didn't catch it, I was the first to install this kit way back and what I meant about backwards was so that you can route the oultet forwards and down so you can run a intercooler. The 2 bungs are exactly what i'm talking about and if you use anything nicer then the "monza" bov's you will get the same outcome and noise, just a loud whine.
                    1993 Mercury tRacer :Vitara & mFactory: In progress 2020
                    1994 Mercury TrAcer Wagon : '02 SPI swap : sold
                    2014 Factory Five 818s: sold
                    2000 Lotus esprit v8TT : 1st v8 on MS3x, ls1 coils,h20 injection
                    1997 Nissan 200sx 1.6L : 35-39mpg the daily

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                    • #11
                      well then you are perfect resource for me then, and I appreciate any help you can give me. If you used the monza bov and they worked fine then thats great and I'll probably use them too, they just seemed a little cheap to me thats all . I'll search for you name too and see what else I can learn. You wouldn't happen to have any old pictures of your setup would you?
                      There are some who call me.....Tim
                      http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w...y/IMG_7612.jpg 2005 R6- new toy
                      http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w...e/IMG_4813.jpg 96pgt-SOLD

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                      • #12
                        https://www.supermotors.net/registry/7336/29663
                        1993 Mercury tRacer :Vitara & mFactory: In progress 2020
                        1994 Mercury TrAcer Wagon : '02 SPI swap : sold
                        2014 Factory Five 818s: sold
                        2000 Lotus esprit v8TT : 1st v8 on MS3x, ls1 coils,h20 injection
                        1997 Nissan 200sx 1.6L : 35-39mpg the daily

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                        • #13
                          those are great pics mac, thank you!!

                          now regarding the afpr you said aeromotive a1000. when i search for that I find the a1000 and the a1000-6. whats the difference and which one is best, or does it not matter?
                          There are some who call me.....Tim
                          http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w...y/IMG_7612.jpg 2005 R6- new toy
                          http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w...e/IMG_4813.jpg 96pgt-SOLD

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                          • #14
                            OK it's the a1000-6 for the FPR, and it has -6an ports so you need -6an to whatever thread is on the MBX adaptor. like this
                            Last edited by mac1; October 26, 2010, 11:34 PM.
                            1993 Mercury tRacer :Vitara & mFactory: In progress 2020
                            1994 Mercury TrAcer Wagon : '02 SPI swap : sold
                            2014 Factory Five 818s: sold
                            2000 Lotus esprit v8TT : 1st v8 on MS3x, ls1 coils,h20 injection
                            1997 Nissan 200sx 1.6L : 35-39mpg the daily

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by redPGT96 View Post
                              mac1 I guess your right, I kind of assumed it would make 5 psi so next time I'm home I"ll measure it, and I believe Sasha has an equation which should tell how much boost it makes?

                              So it seems fmu's aren't liked very much, and I suppose I should probably start learning up on how to get the MS hooked up. Thats gonna be a challenge because my current ms know how is 0, but I'm willing to learn I'll just try to get a hold of jordan (Shaoddome?) and see what I can learn.

                              I have another question about running a fmic and going with some sort of a waste gate. I've found that if you are running 5psi or under a fmic isn't going to make much of a difference but if this pulley is good 7psi I wonder if it would be a good idea? I mean its not like it could hurt any right. Also I wonder if I'll need any sort of waste gate/bov on a supercharger setup like this. I've watched almost all the m62 probe videos on youtube and about half of them have some sort of waste gate on them. I feel like such a newb asking these types of questions but hey, ya gotta learn sometime
                              What on earth are you talking about. Both mac1 and I have had or still have this kit and we are both TELLING you it WILL run 6-9psi. You WILL need Milenia S injectors. WTF would you need a wastegate for this isn't a turbo. You can't run an fmic with this kit etc.

                              Which kit did you get the shafted kit or the ac kit? If its the shafted kit is comes with two BOV. A wastegate and a BOV are two different things.
                              Last edited by mattm; October 28, 2010, 08:56 AM.
                              mods: Custom intake manifold, Water to Air Intercooler, jands safeguard, pacesetter headers, borlacatback, EATON M62 SUPERCHARGER,millenia s injectors, megasquirt, mx3 fly,ngk wires, Built engine with ze heads and cams,electric exhaust cutout, methanol injection, quaife lsd, and 9-10 psi.
                              Old 160k mile engine dyno result: 245whp 227 ftlbs tq best de 1/4: 13.80 at 103.28mph with a 60' of 2.170 on 6psi. GONNA BE QUICKER SOON!

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